It’s very telling that you’d accuse them of being pro genocide because they criticised liberalism, while yourself ignoring genocides committed by liberal democacries because they’re in the past.
The fact that you don’t like them doesn’t change the fact that Israel (and Russia, for that matter) are just liberal democracies doing normal liberal democracy things.
Sorry, I though you wanted to be involved in this conversation, how silly of me to expect you to have read what you’re arguing about - the claim you’re defending is that they’re not a liberal democracy because they’re committing a genocide, even though liberal democracies do that. You’re not even claiming it’s not a democracy because people can’t vote, it’s just all the genocidal stuff. So, for you to claim that doesn’t make them a democracy, you have to deny all the times democracies have done that.
Anyway, Israelis get to vote, that makes it as democratic as, say, America - it’s a democracy.
You think all those other places are crazy? You should check out what Israel is doing RIGHT NOW.
Gold level mental gymnastics, tho. German judge loved the dismount!
yhea, those arguments are bullshit.
If we were talking about some issues with democracies, yhea, that would be a valid conversations, but this is some bullshit progenicidal whataboutism
It’s very telling that you’d accuse them of being pro genocide because they criticised liberalism, while yourself ignoring genocides committed by liberal democacries because they’re in the past.
The fact that you don’t like them doesn’t change the fact that Israel (and Russia, for that matter) are just liberal democracies doing normal liberal democracy things.
please point me to where I denied past atrocities?
just because Israel calls itself a democracy and pays US politicians to repeat that lie doesn’t make it true.
Israel is not a democracy.
Sorry, I though you wanted to be involved in this conversation, how silly of me to expect you to have read what you’re arguing about - the claim you’re defending is that they’re not a liberal democracy because they’re committing a genocide, even though liberal democracies do that. You’re not even claiming it’s not a democracy because people can’t vote, it’s just all the genocidal stuff. So, for you to claim that doesn’t make them a democracy, you have to deny all the times democracies have done that.
Anyway, Israelis get to vote, that makes it as democratic as, say, America - it’s a democracy.
my main claim was that half the population isn’t considered people due to ethnic divide.
a democracy on the same level as Nazi Germany.