• alsimoneau@lemmy.ca
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    You’re the meme. Did they asked to be there? Yes you’re “giving” them a lot of your energy, but they are owed that. That’s not generosity, that’s responsibility.

    Having kids is inherently selfish. Prove me wrong! Name a single reason to have them that doesn’t involve you.

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      By that logic taking care of a pet or senile relatives is also selfish. Or working as a missionary, or emergency worker. It boils down to the question if being selfless is in itself a selfish decision.

      Were we just stupid? Naive? Following our biological program? I don’t know. But I know that I love my children above all else and would throw myself under a bus to save them.

      I guess it can be hard to imagine loving someone without expecting anything in return, if you haven’t received that kind of love yourself.

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        The big difference here is that these individual already exist. You’re not creating a life for your own amusement.

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          Amusement? Give me a effing break! Quick, call up your parents and ask them how amused they were wiping your ass and cleaning after you! How funny it was taking care of you when you were sick and keeping them up at night. And then tell them how selfish it was of them.

          Just as well you don’t want kids, seriously.

          • alsimoneau@lemmy.ca
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            You’ve yet to name a single non-selfish reason. I can see this makes you emotive. You should reflect on that before you reproduce.