The several hundred sects that make up that particular religion. Ya know, if one specific part of a group is a part, then the rest of the group is “the rest of” the group.
It varies, but I have had some of them be quite hostile when I start using my logic and forced knowledge of your fanfic to start tearing apart the inherent contradictions in your faith. Like the Bible being pro-choice. They get really mad when I tell them to look up Numbers 5:11-31 and other such verses.
you need the Church for salvation, but only in some cases where you are PHYSICALLY unable to go to church, like the thief on the cross, you will be saved
Nah, bro. Just because your sect is hateful and doesn’t recognize the other sects doesn’t mean that you all don’t have the same fanfiction as your source of knowledge.
The rest of Christianity exists, get your head out of the crusades.
And then the apostles immediately split themselves and the church. Culminating in the split of the greco-orthodox and Catholic churches, which themselves have splintered, because you all are hateful people who are following a book written by apocalyptic Jews, converted into apocalyptic Christians.
I don’t have to know the entire damn history of the founding of other religions, and their founding books in self defense. I have had to with Christianity in general, and Catholics specifically. You don’t know what persecution is you practice it on yourselves and others constantly.
I don’t care what lies you believe, about the history of your oppressive belief system. I will admit that your religion did face a fair bit of persecution in the first few hundred years of the various sects, until they turned around and became global persecutors. I will listen to the archaologists and historians, not fanfic weebs.
As I said, you brought it on yourselves in the tiny amount of places that it might happen. You’re a hateful religion that likes killing people who don’t want shit to do with your hateful book.
Numbers 5:21 these curses shall be thrown upon you: May the Lord turn you into a curse and an example among all his people. May he cause your thigh to rot, and may your abdomen swell up and burst out.
man I didnt know abortions were curses and you could only get them if you committed adultery and slept with another man
I forgot the exact numbers then, the verses tell you to give your wife “bitter waters” to abort a baby if you suspect them of cheating on you. The Talmud goes into how to make bitter water, and it contains an herb that can cause an abortion. It’s probably the most barbaric way I’ve heard of doing it, but it is in there.
I don’t care about your specific interpretation, if you didn’t follow it at all the old testament wouldn’t be in your fanfic book. The book never mentions abortion again anywhere else in either the new or old parts, therefore your book says that abortion is just fine and dandy.
That’s not how medicine, or the real world work. Only your fanfiction.
Prove it. None of those miracles have stood up to scientific inquiry. Science is real. If we lost all knowledge and had the global resources reset back to the stone age, we would reinvent science. We would also reinvent religion, the multiple hundred belief systems worldwide prove that. It is highly unlikely that either my religion, or yours would emerge the same way again.
On August 15, 1996, a discarded consecrated Host was placed in water according to standard protocol. Instead of dissolving, it developed reddish tissue and grew.
The Archbishop who ordered the investigation was Jorge Bergoglio — now Pope Francis
Dr. Ricardo Castañón Gómez, a former atheist, coordinated the scientific analysis
A tissue sample was sent to New York for blind testing
The primary examiner was Dr. Frederick Zugibe, a secular forensic pathologist and cardiologist at Columbia University
He was not told where the sample came from or what it had been
The Witness
Zugibe analyzed the tissue and identified it as human heart muscle — specifically from the myocardium of the left ventricle near the heart valves.
He found intact, active white blood cells — cells that typically disintegrate within 15 minutes outside a living body
Professor John Walker (University of Sydney) later confirmed intact white blood cells in the same tissue six years after the event
The blood type was AB, matching the Lanciano relic and the Shroud of Turin
When Zugibe was finally told the sample came from a communion wafer that had been sitting in water for three years, he stated: “How and why a piece of a human heart is still alive, sitting in distilled water, is totally beyond my comprehension.”
That’s not a miracle. There’s some black woman whose cell cultures are still alive despite her dying in the '70s. Her family is suing to try to get some of the vast fortunes that have been made with actual medicine, based on the woman’s DNA.
That’s just something that can happen in certain cell lines.
On October 12, 2008, during Mass in Sokółka, Poland, a consecrated Host accidentally fell to the ground and was placed in water to dissolve — the standard liturgical procedure. Instead of dissolving, it formed a red, blood-like substance.
The Metropolitan Curia of Białystok commissioned an independent scientific analysis. Two professors of pathomorphology at the Medical University of Białystok were selected:
Professor Maria Sobaniec-Łotowska (Department of Medical Pathomorphology)
Professor Stanisław Sulkowski (Department of General Pathomorphology)
They examined the sample independently.
The Witnesses
Both professors concluded that the sample was human cardiac muscle in the agony of death — myocardial tissue showing segmentation and fragmentation of muscle fibers at the intercalated discs, a pattern consistent with a heart under extreme duress.
But the finding that elevates this case above all other Eucharistic miracles is what they saw under the electron microscope:
The human heart tissue was physically, inextricably interwoven with the fibers of the wheat bread.
It was not a piece of flesh dropped onto a wafer. It was not blood smeared on top. The bread and the flesh shared the same cellular matrix. At the microscopic level, baked wheat fibers and living human cardiac tissue were seamlessly spliced together.
Nope. The very book states that killing a woman who is less than six or seven months pregnant has a lesser punishment than killing a woman who is pregnant more than their arbitrary timeline.
The only time it directly addresses abortion it tells you to do it before that arbitrary deadline, therefore the book doesn’t think abortion is murder.
The several hundred sects that make up that particular religion. Ya know, if one specific part of a group is a part, then the rest of the group is “the rest of” the group.
It varies, but I have had some of them be quite hostile when I start using my logic and forced knowledge of your fanfic to start tearing apart the inherent contradictions in your faith. Like the Bible being pro-choice. They get really mad when I tell them to look up Numbers 5:11-31 and other such verses.
only catholicism is Christianity
you need the Church for salvation, but only in some cases where you are PHYSICALLY unable to go to church, like the thief on the cross, you will be saved
Nah, bro. Just because your sect is hateful and doesn’t recognize the other sects doesn’t mean that you all don’t have the same fanfiction as your source of knowledge.
The rest of Christianity exists, get your head out of the crusades.
Even Catholicism can’t claim to be “first.”
Catholicism was created by Jesus when he appointed Peter (Cephas, literally meaning Rock) as the Rock of his church
We dont practice Sola Scriptura
And then the apostles immediately split themselves and the church. Culminating in the split of the greco-orthodox and Catholic churches, which themselves have splintered, because you all are hateful people who are following a book written by apocalyptic Jews, converted into apocalyptic Christians.
I don’t have to know the entire damn history of the founding of other religions, and their founding books in self defense. I have had to with Christianity in general, and Catholics specifically. You don’t know what persecution is you practice it on yourselves and others constantly.
Saint Cephas is the First Pope, and Jesus Christ made him the Rock of His Church (The Catholic Church)
We know what persecution is
we were persecuted in almost every nation until the 300s and we are still persecuted a LOT in the global south
I don’t care what lies you believe, about the history of your oppressive belief system. I will admit that your religion did face a fair bit of persecution in the first few hundred years of the various sects, until they turned around and became global persecutors. I will listen to the archaologists and historians, not fanfic weebs.
we were and are persecuted in a lot of places
As I said, you brought it on yourselves in the tiny amount of places that it might happen. You’re a hateful religion that likes killing people who don’t want shit to do with your hateful book.
Numbers 5:21 these curses shall be thrown upon you: May the Lord turn you into a curse and an example among all his people. May he cause your thigh to rot, and may your abdomen swell up and burst out.
man I didnt know abortions were curses and you could only get them if you committed adultery and slept with another man
I forgot the exact numbers then, the verses tell you to give your wife “bitter waters” to abort a baby if you suspect them of cheating on you. The Talmud goes into how to make bitter water, and it contains an herb that can cause an abortion. It’s probably the most barbaric way I’ve heard of doing it, but it is in there.
we dont follow the talmud
and a priest COULD give her those waters and if she was innocent she would be unaffected
and most of the old testament has been fulfilled by Jesus Christ
I don’t care about your specific interpretation, if you didn’t follow it at all the old testament wouldn’t be in your fanfic book. The book never mentions abortion again anywhere else in either the new or old parts, therefore your book says that abortion is just fine and dandy.
That’s not how medicine, or the real world work. Only your fanfiction.
the “fanfiction” has been proven real via many miracles
Prove it. None of those miracles have stood up to scientific inquiry. Science is real. If we lost all knowledge and had the global resources reset back to the stone age, we would reinvent science. We would also reinvent religion, the multiple hundred belief systems worldwide prove that. It is highly unlikely that either my religion, or yours would emerge the same way again.
The Documentation
On August 15, 1996, a discarded consecrated Host was placed in water according to standard protocol. Instead of dissolving, it developed reddish tissue and grew.
The Witness
Zugibe analyzed the tissue and identified it as human heart muscle — specifically from the myocardium of the left ventricle near the heart valves.
When Zugibe was finally told the sample came from a communion wafer that had been sitting in water for three years, he stated: “How and why a piece of a human heart is still alive, sitting in distilled water, is totally beyond my comprehension.”
https://nacn-usa.org/wp-content/uploads/Zugibe-scanned-reports-26-3-05-and-15-3-05-RON-ack.pdf
That’s not a miracle. There’s some black woman whose cell cultures are still alive despite her dying in the '70s. Her family is suing to try to get some of the vast fortunes that have been made with actual medicine, based on the woman’s DNA.
That’s just something that can happen in certain cell lines.
https://apcz.umk.pl/TiCz/article/view/TiCz.2018.028
On October 12, 2008, during Mass in Sokółka, Poland, a consecrated Host accidentally fell to the ground and was placed in water to dissolve — the standard liturgical procedure. Instead of dissolving, it formed a red, blood-like substance.
The Metropolitan Curia of Białystok commissioned an independent scientific analysis. Two professors of pathomorphology at the Medical University of Białystok were selected:
They examined the sample independently.
The Witnesses
Both professors concluded that the sample was human cardiac muscle in the agony of death — myocardial tissue showing segmentation and fragmentation of muscle fibers at the intercalated discs, a pattern consistent with a heart under extreme duress.
But the finding that elevates this case above all other Eucharistic miracles is what they saw under the electron microscope:
The human heart tissue was physically, inextricably interwoven with the fibers of the wheat bread.
It was not a piece of flesh dropped onto a wafer. It was not blood smeared on top. The bread and the flesh shared the same cellular matrix. At the microscopic level, baked wheat fibers and living human cardiac tissue were seamlessly spliced together.
not mentioned = fine???
what is this logic?
“You Shall Not Murder”
Nope. The very book states that killing a woman who is less than six or seven months pregnant has a lesser punishment than killing a woman who is pregnant more than their arbitrary timeline.
The only time it directly addresses abortion it tells you to do it before that arbitrary deadline, therefore the book doesn’t think abortion is murder.
verse?
Somewhere in the rules and laws, it’s your shitty book, why don’t you actually read it.