Are we human?
www.theregister.com

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/68752761 which was cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/64103917

I thought about saying “you know it’s a grift when they collect personal information and leak it.” According to their Bible, you don’t need an app to pray. They say church (or a covenant, I forget, it’s been 30+ years since I read the KJV) is when any two people come together to talk about Jesus (sorry!). So, where does an app fit in? And why does that app need your personally identifiable information (referred to as PII in industry). Wouldn’t an all-knowing God already have it?

But you don’t have to know it’s a grift… I feel like this is proof the Vatican (or whoever made this app on their behalf, and thus speak on their behalf… and the Pope allegedly speaks on God’s behalf) themselves know it’s a grift. Because why would they need your PII?

I know, fools and their money are soon parted… just saw this on /all and figured the Fediverse’s top Atheism comm should have it.

  • SnoopSqueak@lemmy.todayEnglish
    3·
    2 days ago

    Sin was introduced to humanity by the serpent when Adam and Eve ate the apple.

    …all of which god created, knowing this would happen.

    ill need sources for the claims you made in the last paragraph

    You need look no further than the bible to confirm that all of christianity is a death cult, yahweh is a death god. Do you drink your savior’s blood and eat his flesh? Do you know how fucked-up that is?

    Rapists and pedophiles: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6676731/

    Murderers and genociders: https://www.worldhistory.org/Crusades/

    All in the name of your god. Can you prove they are wrong and you are right? Everyone reasonable is still waiting for any proof of god’s existence before claiming they believe in it.

    • rootEnglish
      12·
      1 day ago

      When cases of sexual abuse within the Catholic Church became known, the German Bishops’ Conference (Deutsche Bischofskonferenz, DBK) commissioned a study by an interdisciplinary consortium to determine the frequency of sexual abuse by Catholic clergy in Germany (the MHG study).

      1670 persons belonging to the Catholic clergy who were accused of sexual abuse of minors were identified from their personnel files, corresponding to 4.4% of the clergy overall.

      The DBK requested this study in the first place, and 4.4% of all clergy since the 1910s in Germany

      Also, there have been many scientifically proven miracles.

      • SnoopSqueak@lemmy.todayEnglish
        1·
        1 day ago

        They protect pedophiles until they cannot, if the evidence is overwhelming. How many are they still protecting today? How many were simply sent to other churches to harm more victims?

        Still happening this year, actively covering up abuse: https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2026/01/27/catholic-abuse-powerful-utah/

        Also, there have been many scientifically proven miracles.

        Define “miracle”. Name one that has been scientifically proven.

        • rootEnglish
          12·
          1 day ago

          an otherwise impossible act done by God

          The Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires

          • SnoopSqueak@lemmy.todayEnglish
            2·
            1 day ago

            But you never proved or defined “god”.

            Anyway, even catholic scientists admit your example is not a miracle: https://drjulesgomes.substack.com/p/catholic-scientists-debunk-assertions

            Catholic scientists are now urging the faithful to be cautious about claims that eucharistic miracles have been scientifically proven, as unconsecrated hosts tested under similar conditions have also shown similar “bleeding” appearances.

            Peer-reviewed studies published by Catholic scientists who believe in Christ’s real presence in the Eucharist have also dismissed assertions that the miracles were validated by research carried out by the World Health Organization (WHO) and the United Nations (UN).

            Would you like to try another? Spoiler: they’re all bullshit, magic isn’t real. Please use your brain.

            • rootEnglish
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              1 day ago

              they APPEAR to be bleeding due to serratia marascens, a red pigmented bacterium.

              But multiple tests for serratia are done in the case of eucharistic miracles

              • SnoopSqueak@lemmy.todayEnglish
                1·
                15 hours ago

                But without detailed reports? You just take them at their word?

                You believe god is all-powerful, yes? And you believe this is how he chooses to interact with us?

                • rootEnglish
                  1·
                  10 hours ago

                  He has many ways of interacting with us

              • SnoopSqueak@lemmy.todayEnglish
                2·
                1 day ago

                Interesting, I’d love to see the report. Ah, it’s linked at the bottom of the article. Hmm, the link is unsafe, certificate expired two years ago. I proceeded with caution and saw… a 404 error.

                There is no evidence of this supposed miracle.

                  • SnoopSqueak@lemmy.todayEnglish
                    2·
                    1 day ago

                    That is a letter, not a report.

                    I have not been able to find the report myself, but other scientists have commented on it, including catholic “scientists”:

                    DR. KELLY KEARSE, A CHEMIST SPECIALIZING IN BLOOD RESEARCH AND IMMUNOLOGY AND A TEACHER AT KNOXVILLE CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL, IS CALLING FOR THE USE OF MORE ACCURATE RESEARCH METHODS IN INVESTIGATING THE SHROUD OF TURIN AND OTHER RELIGIOUS PHENOMENA THOUGHT TO BE DIVINE.

                    Dr. Kearse points out important natural explanations that were never addressed. Until those are ruled out as causes, it is premature to claim a miracle.

                    It seems remarkable that all five test for the same, rare blood type. But there is a problem: the A and B antigens are not unique to humans. Since the 1960s, biologists have known that bacteria cells also have A and B antigens on their surfaces. Hence, if a sample is contaminated with bacteria, even if it contains no blood at all, it could still show a type AB blood result in this test.

                    A “very low concentration of human DNA” is indicative of handling contamination. In forensic DNA tests, trace amounts of DNA from humans who touch a sample can be unintentionally amplified, and reports say the hosts were touched by several people.

                    https://etcatholic.org/2025/01/exaggerations-and-eucharistic-miracles/

                  • rootEnglish
                    11·
                    1 day ago

                    this is the buenos aires one

                • SnoopSqueak@lemmy.todayEnglish
                  1·
                  15 hours ago

                  Another polish article about this: https://naukawpolsce.pl/aktualnosci/news%2C367624%2Cuniwersytet-medyczny-odcina-sie-od-badan-ws-cudu-w-sokolce.html

                  The Medical University of Białystok officially distances itself from the results of these studies and emphasizes that the university does not endorse them.

                  One of the most valuable things about science is the consistent ability for anyone to repeat the experiment and get the same result. Why does the catholic church keep hiding from showing us that it is true?

                  “We did not do this as a university,” Chyczewski told PAP, adding that the tests were conducted illegally, “quietly,” outside the official channels. They took place at the Academic Department of Pathomorphological Diagnostics. Chyczewski emphasizes that the university was not commissioned to perform these tests, and the study was not registered anywhere. “Please do not attribute the diagnosis to any specific department operating within the institution called the Medical University,” Chyczewski wrote in his statement.

                  Why didn’t they collaborate with the university, if they have legitimate evidence?

                  Professor Chyczewski believes that his colleagues who made the diagnosis made a “schoolboy error” by trying to combine theology and biology, which, in his opinion, is impossible.

                  Because biology is evident and theology is not.

                  Just a few weeks ago, when the news of the tests became public, Archbishop Ozorowski said: “We are dealing with an extremely subtle matter. If we confess that this is the body of Christ, we cannot just cut it into pieces and subject it to tests. We must exercise caution and a certain fear.”

                  Fear of your own savior? Fear of your “loving” god’s punishment for proving his own existence? This same god who once loved when his own creations were eviscerated and cooked now is squeamish? Ohhhh, no, I get it, he’s only offended when it’s his OWN flesh that gets… Wait, what about Jesus, though? He was willing to make that sacrifice, but not this one?

                  Please stop defending catholicism. It is a death cult. People are dying for your false beliefs.

                  • rootEnglish
                    1·
                    10 hours ago

                    1. Almost all analysis of genetic material of the Relics and eucharistic miracles showed that the blood type is AB, the same result.

                    2. In his opinion?