High blood levels of xylitol associated with higher risk of major cardiovascular events, in largest study of its kind
  • ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    7·
    3 小時前

    This clickbait bullshit should not be tolerated. The ingredient name in question is only one word, instead of the stupid sentence they used.

    It’s xylitol. Shame on every shitbag sellout that decided to not just say that in the headline.

    • Raiderkev@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 小時前

      Fr. Clickbait is bullshit. I worked at whole foods when Xylitol was first making its way onto the market as a “natural” 0 cal sweetener and I was always skeptical of it and never intentionally bought anything with it in it. I can’t say I’m surprised to see this.

      • ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        2 小時前

        It’s good to be skeptical, but please don’t give this particular article toooo much weight. It’s not a real experiment, it’s just just an observation of correlation which doesn’t prove anything at all.

        This website can show you plenty of other things that are extremely highly correlated. It really doesn’t prove anything.

  • shirro@aussie.zoneEnglish
    3·
    3 小時前

    Sugar alcohols are in a huge number of processed foods and might be responsible for a non negligible number of people feeling like shit. Fairly sure a local family owned bakery reduced some amount of sugar in their baked goods with sugar alcohols and it is not advertised and no ingredient list required unlike supermarkets. It is getting hard to escape stuff like this.

  • minorkeys@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    101·
    7 小時前

    So glad we let companies sell us whatever poison hasn’t had enough research yet to show it’s unsafe…

  • bigbangdangler@reddthat.comEnglish
    651·
    10 小時前

    “In this observational work, however, it appears that xylitol has a negative long-term effect on cardiovascular events in the general population. As with all observational studies, causalities are difficult to infer, but this work shows that further studies are mandated into this societally important topic.”

    This is important, because the outcome of the study is: we need more studies. It is not that xylitol has been shown to be dangerous, a jump so many comments have made.

    There was an observed effect in people who had “high blood levels of xylitol”. But there were few if any other controls:

    The researchers also highlighted that the association was independent of underlying factors such as body mass index, hypertension, diabetes and lipid levels, which might predispose people to low-calorie products.

    It’s been known for a while that extremely high levels of xylitol can act as a diuretic, but that’s true of a lot of other things, too. That’s also not relevant here. It’s important to not jump to unwarranted conclusions until more proper studies are conducted.

    • Delascas@feddit.ukEnglish
      343·
      10 小時前

      Just pointing out the obvious. A shill for xylitol (tobacco, diesel cars, coal power plants, Israel . . ) would say the exact same thing - “more study is needed . . .”

      • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        7 小時前

        The same shit is the reason everyone dropped using msg…which surprise turned out to be Bullshit.

      • bigbangdangler@reddthat.comEnglish
        43·
        10 小時前

        If you deny the scientific method because you fear everyone is a shill, you’re probably gonna have a bad time.

          • SippyCup@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            5 小時前

            That’s added to the end of literally every study. It’s an acknowledgement that not every single conceivable question has been answered by this study. Further research is always required.

  • Stolas@lemmy.caEnglish
    5·
    8 小時前

    I was thinking a while ago that I missed chewing gum all the time and now I realize I may want to not pick up that habit again.

    • Funkt4st1c@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      4 小時前

      Xylitol is fantastic for dental health.

      Im assuming theres some confounding factor like “people who chew a lot of gum and eat a lot of artificial sweeteners are also people who just eat a lot in general or have history of obesity/type 2 diabetes” or something until a dedicated study proves otherwise.

      • dbdr@nord.pubEnglish
        1·
        2 分鐘前

        At least some of that seems to be taken into account already:

        The researchers also highlighted that the association was independent of underlying factors such as body mass index, hypertension, diabetes and lipid levels, which might predispose people to low-calorie products.

        Still agree more research is needed.

  • brackled@lemmy.worldEnglish
    91·
    14 小時前

    It is important to note that this was an observational study, meaning it can only show an association between higher xylitol levels and cardiovascular events, rather than proving that xylitol directly caused them, and further research is needed. But it is not a green light to have more sugar instead, as we still need to reduce our free sugar intake

    Correlation vs Causation caveat is strongly needed here

    • nomad@infosec.pubEnglish
      20·
      4 小時前

      Xylotol in small amounts tastes sweet and kills the bacteria breaking you teeth. In large quantities it makes you shit hit liquid.

      Edit: hit should have been hot as in burning, 37C not erotic. ;)

        • FauxPseudo @lemmy.worldEnglish
          271·
          12 小時前

          They don’t sneak chocolate into peanut butter and people use peanut butter as a dog treat it as a way to hide medication from dogs.

          Xylitol shouldn’t be used in any product a dog might be tempted to eat. And dogs love peanut butter.

          • Thor_Whale@lemmus.orgEnglish
            9·
            8 小時前

            It’s amazing that you can actually buy peanut butter that is just strictly peanut butter, no additives. 🤷

            • FauxPseudo @lemmy.worldEnglish
              62·
              8 小時前

              There is a bit of a price difference, isn’t there? And the all peanuts stuff isn’t as good at hiding pills in, is it? Because it is so oily it doesn’t form around the pill like the cheap stuff, right?

              So it’s amazing and you have to pay more for something absolutely useless for the task at hand. But maybe you didn’t know that. Maybe you were being clever but lacking the experience to be helpful.

          • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            64·
            8 小時前

            Dogs eat shit, therefore my shit should be illegal? Think about that, if we banned it because dogs might eat it there’s alot of things we would ban because a pet might eat it.

            • ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              1·
              2 小時前

              It’s so common now that it’s a meme trope, but right before a location legalizes THC usage, there is always a maaaaaaaaaassive scare campaign about how literally every single pet is going to eat a thousand weed gummies and die as soon as legalization happens.

              …and then for years after legalization that just never fucking happens because it turns out people love their pets and don’t just casually leave out poison for them.

            • FauxPseudo @lemmy.worldEnglish
              62·
              8 小時前

              Your shit isn’t immediately toxic to dogs. But you really should learn to use a toilet and stop leaving shit everywhere.

              • DaveyRocket@lemmy.worldEnglish
                4·
                7 小時前

                What are you? The police chasing me around downtown L.A. while I’m naked from the waste down leaving a Hershey squirt obstacle for the cops to slip in? Because if you are, that was some other guy…

        • ratofkryll@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          11·
          13 小時前

          The fatal dose is significantly lower for xylitol. If my 90 lb dog ate a few pieces of chocolate, he might be miserable for a few days and need a vet visit, but it would take a lot to be fatal. If he ate a few pieces of gum, it could make him much, much sicker or kill him.

      • Taldan@lemmy.worldEnglish
        26·
        15 小時前

        It’s basically anti-freeze to dogs. Kills them quickly and painfully from even relatively small amounts

    • bedwyr@piefed.caEnglish
      166·
      14 小時前

      I didn’t know it was in jam as well. It’s potent dog poison. Not sure about cats. Should be outlawed, it’s not like we don’t have other sweeteners that aren’t dog poison.

  • nul42@lemmy.caEnglish
    6·
    12 小時前

    What sort of diet leads to high blood levels? My guess is the xylitol in my mouthwash or toothpaste that I spit out isn’t causing a high level in the blood and still benefits my oral health. Any studies on that?

    • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      3·
      8 小時前

      Diet colas, snack foods, anything really it’s just another artificial sweetener. It most likely will not be any worse than aspartame with more studies.

  • realitista@lemmus.orgEnglish
    141·
    15 小時前

    Dammit. I chew a lot of gum and there is no good option. I have to start looking for sugared gum.

    • folekaule@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      13 小時前

      Avoid sugared gum. I also used to chew a lot of gum and was trying to stick with sorbitol because xylitol gave me stomach pains. That limited me to Wrigley’s. Anyway, due to my confusion after it went out of stock, I was buying sugared gum instead, and finally ended up having to fill 6 cavities before I checked the label and made the connection. All that sugar sitting on my teeth all day was not good, to say the least. I quit cold turkey after that (and also gum).

    • Pringles@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      91·
      14 小時前

      Search for chewing gum that uses sorbitol as sweetener instead. Luckily for me my favorite brand, Airwaves, uses that and not xylitol.

      • realitista@lemmus.orgEnglish
        4·
        14 小時前

        Isn’t it just another sugar alcohol? I’m sure it’s up next on the list, just not as popular.

        • Pringles@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          42·
          13 小時前

          It is a sugar alcohol, but also naturally occurring in apples and pears, so it at least seems safer.

          • realitista@lemmus.orgEnglish
            5·
            11 小時前

            Xylitol also occurs naturally in plums, strawberries, raspberries, rowanberries, and bananas among others. And our livers even produce small amounts when breaking down sugars.

  • HumanOnEarth@lemmy.caEnglish
    13·
    15 小時前

    Heard this about Erithrytol as well. Not sure if that one is as confirmed. Cove Soda uses it, and I’m reluctant even though it’s tasty and Canadian.

  • bw42@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    13 小時前

    I complain to my wife all the time that sugar alcohols shoild be banned from food products.

    • PlantJam@lemmy.worldEnglish
      51·
      12 小時前

      I swear I’ve seen companies advertise “no artificial sweeteners” while using things like stevia or monk fruit. Maybe I’m misremembering, but it’s so irritating that you just have to know an increasingly long list of sweeteners to check for.

      • Biffsbraincell@lemmy.zipEnglish
        9·
        11 小時前

        Well yeah because stevia and monk fruit aren’t artificial, they’re natural alternatives to sweeteners.

        I’m not making health claims but they do grow in the ground hence non artificial.

        But yeah I don’t really like them, so I would wish it would say low sugar, and also no added sweetener alternatives or something, since that’s what I like and I will see low sugar and then buy it and it’s sickly sweet with the fake ones…

        • PlantJam@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          10 小時前

          “No added sugar” but then the ingredients list extra juice concentrate is another pet peeve.

        • Maeve@kbin.earth
          2·
          9 小時前

          Whole leaf stevia is a little bitter, but I haven’t seen any studies on any of it. I haven’t looked, either, since I’ve cut out all of it, unless I’m out somewhere and can’t avoid it (questionable water sources, for example).

          • JollyBrancher@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            5 小時前

            When they started using it in yogurt it almost made me vomit every time I bought it without checking. Didn’t take many times to learn, but too damn long. Everyone I’ve asked never had the same problem though. Turns out stevia just tastes heinous to me so… hooray?

    • bramkaandorp@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      13 小時前

      More like ban it outright. Anything that is generally seen as safe, but with some caveats, gets RFK jr. to foam at the mouth about how dangerous it is.

  • Doom@lemmy.worldEnglish
    810·
    10 小時前

    Xylitol? The sweetener that kills pets? I’m shocked, Shocked I say!