Fuck this guy give the gross pedo gold gifts, what an absolute piece of fucking shit.
I never owned an apple product because of their “killing batteries from afar” fiasco. Once I saw Tim Apple giving trump little golden trinkets on television I knew my decision was right. It reminded me of putting money in the collection plate.
Applle is…cooked
Willing to bet $10 the next guy drives it straight into the ground harder and faster.
Who the hell designed that rainbow?!
dude can’t even design a website that scrolls properly and he’s responsible for billion dollar company logos‽
“I dunno about no Rob Janoff, but I know all about how to Rob Juanoff, if yaknow what I’m sayin”
Oh. I see.
Apple is a garbage company. Better than google is not an acceptable measure, and they are only performitiely better than google anyway, they pretend to not kowtow a bit before they do. Google just deepthroats authority because they are the worst.
The only solution is here is to go open source. Tech is an existential risk to society, and already it’s late to stop them. We can stop them though, together.
I don’t even think they can be called performatively better than google. Has google personally gifted Trump tacky golden shit? Feels like apple has kissed the ring a lot more.
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Better than google is not an acceptable measure
I remember when that would be a pretty high bar. It’s a bit of a distant memory at this point though. It’s crazy how bad tech has become.
Tim was great for the shareholders and not so much the customer.
I feel like most services got worse, hardware got worse before the M series, but post M I haven’t seen much innovation — just a lot of recycled parts for peripherals like Studio Display, which is premium price but sub premium quality (camera, panel itself, and ports/support).
Phones have massively homogenized under Cook
And software has taken a massive nose dive. As much as I try to like swift, it sucks. And it was a mistake to lose Chris Lattner, because without him Swift has had basically no focus or direction other than boosting SwiftUI.
Nobody has ever managed building production software with Swift outside of app dev, which I think says it finds a poor compromise on real performance vs ergonomics vs safety. I do not think Rust is better, I think Swift makes it too hard to do the right low level things.
AI/Siri has been embarrassing. Shipping cadence is worst in the business, there’s no reason so many updates are tied to OS updates, it’s simultaneously too rapid for trans to build robust software, and too slow to fix bugs and make QOL adjustments.
So when I look back on the last several years of Apple I kinda just see a bunch of departments duct taped together and drifting away from each other, and then the finance team driving all the decisions.
simultaneously too rapid for trans to build robust software
Multiple assumptions here.
That is a typo
I think you underestimate the power of the socks.
Having tried both Swift and Rust - you can hardly compare them. For me Rust is in a different league. Swift is a modernization and a step forward compared to ObjC, but Rust is a different paradigm altogether. Swift has IMO done a great job for Apple as a platform, but has not achieved universality and had not transcended the platform. Rust has achieved universality, but has not captured any platform in particular yet. Both have not and may never replace C/C++, though my biased opinion is rust may have a chance (at least with C++)
I pick on Rust because of the “write everything in Rust” crowd and just personally I don’t like how the language feels.
I don’t think rust has found fit in the GUI sphere, though it’s getting some adoption from tools like zed, and hopefully some native gui tools get better with it. Swift has some fit there, but it’s not a fair comparison because it’s forced. Swift has nice ergonomics though with callbacks and lib dispatch plus combine that work well for GUIs.
Swift also suffered from poor versioning tools, and platform code differences which have hurt it even if they’ve been patched over.
I agree on everything you’ve said. Rust hype is a bit annoying and can be off putting. AI bros seem to have amplified the effect and I strongly dislike it. GUI is probably the worst area of Rust, but given the universality of Rust, I think it’s expected. I found egui easy to use, though, but far from swift ui, still.
Honest question: how can you make your mark on a product that is already perfect? At some point, software goes from meeting the needs of its customers to meeting the needs of the egos in charge.
You have low standards if you think Apple products are perfect.
I’m speaking theoretically about the software cycle. At some point, the product does what it’s supposed to do as best as it can. Then what happens? People in charge feel they need to make their mark, so things just kind of drift around for no solid design reason worth customers getting used to.
Thanks for explaining the downvotes, though.
His tenure is that of a businessman, not an innovator or visionary. Good or bad, Jobs was all three.
jobs was not an innovator, hes good at marketing, he as ruthless as a business as any other.
Vissonary maybe but innovator?
IPhones & MacBooks were well built & marketed but neither was really innovative.
There were way more than 2 things that Apple produced under Jobs…
Ok and none of them were innovative.
And the apple mac, the iMac, iPod, and the iPad, and cofounding apple. Even the concept of iLife and the market targetting strategy. Yes, innovator.
A computer, an MP3 player, a tablet, starting a business.
How are any of those innovations?
I’d say killing yourself by ignoring medical advice for an easily treatable desies or pretending your daughter isn’t yours were innovations, but royals have been doing that for centuries.
Like what did he do that was innovative?
The Apple Macintosh wasn’t innovative. Here’s how you “innovate” an Apple Mac: Take an existing product of your company, the Apple IIGS. Make that worse by reducing the processor clock speed so your new product will be superior in some way, because your new product is going to lack backwards compatibility, internal expansion card slots, color graphics or multi-channel audio.
The iMac wasn’t innovative. It was an evolution of their existing product line in trendy packaging.
The iPod wasn’t innovative. Even the UI was taken from Creative. Rio beat them to the market by several years.
The iPad wasn’t innovative. I was handed a Dell tablet PC a full decade before the iPad hit the market.
Apple was innovative twice in its very long history: The Apple II was the first microcomputer that combined color graphics with internal expandability, and the iPhone had a capacitive touch screen. The most innovative thing Steve Jobs ever said in his life was “You can just use your finger.”
capacitive touch screen
The first phone with a capacitive touch screen was the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada the iPhone was built with the technology that was around at the time.
People credit the iPhone with creating smartphones but much like Tesla’s the tech was ready and they launched at the right time. I guess Apple patented multitouch slowing down adoption of multitouch on laptops by decades, but I’d credit Apple with that not Jobs.
The Apple II was the first microcomputer that combined color graphics with internal expandability
The first computer I ever used (not counting punch cards or the VIC-20) was an Apple IIe, and I can confidently say that color was green. Later versions of the Apple II had full color, but that wasn’t “innovation” by Steve Jobs, it was just the technology for it becoming affordable.
That was a limitation of the monitor you were using, not the computer. All models of Apple II to include the Plus, e and c had color graphics. But it was common practice to pair them with monochrome monitors, first because they’re cheaper than color monitors, but also…the way the Apple II achieved a 16 color palette was through NTSC artifacting. It only ever tried to send something like six colors over the cable, but when you put two dissimilar colors next to each other, they get smeared together somewhere in the analog domain and they come out some other color. It allowed them to achieve 16 colors, but it had a drawback: Text that was supposed to appear black and white would have green and purple fringes, which made it blurry and hard to read. So if you were using the machine for business or something you might choose a monochrome monitor to get sharper, easier to read text. Apple’s first party monochrome monitors were indeed green.
iPhones literally were visionary. The whole industry was trying to imitate blackberry and overnight apple made them completely irrelevant. Android ch
MacBooks, yea, it’s a laptop. They had some really good ideas in there, sure. MagSafe and touchpads that didnt royally suck ass were welcome features. The M-series lighting a fire under intels ass was exactly what the entire industry needed. Love them more hate them, even when Apple is bad, they create good trouble in an industry that needed to be proven wrong from time to time.
What was the innovation in the iPhone?
It was worse in almost every way except marketing than the n900.
The technology had reached the point where you could have smartphones by then, I don’t see what was innovative about iPhones.
You can call it visionary, sure because he spread his vision for a locked down phone, but where is the innovation in the iPhone?
Yes and no, the first iPhone was innovative, but after that, it just became refinement.
What was the innovation in the iPhone?
It was worse in almost every way except marketing than the n900.
The technology had reached the point where you could have smartphones by then, I don’t see what was innovative about iPhones.
It wasn’t innovative. They took existing products, and polished and marketed them. Apple has always been a lifestyle brand.
The main thing I remember about Tim Cook was him making me realize how wealthy white cisgender gay men were hardly different from wealthy white cisgender straight men.
The whole article has always been really worth a read, seeing how a techbro tried to turn a classic magazine into a tech company somehow. Besides that though, these passages always stuck out to me, because it feels deeply like these wealthy men exploit their sexuality to justify avoiding critique of their actions outside of their sexuality.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/inside-collapse-new-republic
In 2014, Hughes’s personal life and business life became increasingly intertwined, in ways that would coincide with changes at the magazine. His husband, Sean Eldridge, was running for Congress in a district that spanned the Catskills and the Hudson Valley, but his political campaign was not going the way he had hoped. Eldridge and Hughes had bought a two-million-dollar home in a district in which neither of them had ever lived, and Eldridge began investing in local businesses in what was widely seen as a transparent effort to influence the race.
Ioffe dates the abrupt change in mood to late summer, shortly after Foer’s birthday party—the period when, as many current and former T.N.R. employees noted, Eldridge’s expensive campaign to win a congressional seat started looking hopeless. “We all liked him; he seemed to like us,” she told me. “Everything was going great. Then, in the summer, something snapped, and he started talking to me about money and how we’re losing money and he’s tired of it. And then he became just downright contemptuous and hostile toward us.”
Hughes’s eroding relationship with the staff took on an ideological edge. On the morning that Tim Cook, the C.E.O. of Apple, announced that he was gay, MacGillis wrote a note to “the Plank,” T.N.R.’s internal e-mail listserv for writers and editors. “I see the celebration of his announcement, while entirely justifiable, as another sign of what’s happened to liberalism today, where rights/identity liberalism trumps economic liberalism,” he wrote. “This is, after all, a guy who embodies so much of what’s amiss in the age of inequality—pulling down $378 million in 2011 alone; Apple skirting taxes more brazenly than anyone else—yet those revelations have caused barely a stir.”
Hughes responded to the note six minutes later: “I think those are valid issues, although Apple has acted squarely within the law,” he wrote. “The law itself is fucked up. But I don’t think you can underestimate the difficulty of his decision or how tone deaf that argument would be today.”
The other editorial employees on the list were surprised by the response. It was an internal listserv for writers and editors, and the staffers didn’t realize that Hughes, who had relinquished his title as editor-in-chief when he installed Vidra, was on it. MacGillis responded by saying that he would hold off on writing, but added, “Just for the record, though, it is not so clear that Apple acted squarely within the law. The law’s a mess, but Apple pushed the bounds of it more than anyone.” He pasted text from a piece in the Times that questioned some of Apple’s practices.
The main thing I remember about Tim Cook was him making me realize how wealthy white cisgender gay men were hardly different from wealthy white cisgender straight men.
Same with Bessent, or maybe even worse.
They want us to flight because of color, gender, sexual orientation etc. so we don’t notice that the real war is a class war.
It’s sad that so many people still don’t see this.
Ain’t no war except class war.
Billionaires aren’t people in the same sense that we are, Cook has turned his back on the queer community, so he can say whatever he wants about himself, but he’s not gay in the same sense that the rest of us are.
Yeah. Billionaires are not people. Good point.
Their biology is the same. What’s missing is common cause.
because it feels deeply like these wealthy men exploit their sexuality to justify avoiding critique of their actions outside of their sexuality.
Not Gay, so don’t know about that angle, but they are ALL some high level of Pscho - just to have ended up where they are. There is simply no way you can be the head of a big Corp and not have trampled on workers, co-workers, customers as well as more fair-minded smaller corps and anything in between. ‘Competition’ is a white-washing word for ‘eternal economic war’ that at that level always spills over to law-fare, info-wars, political corruption/manipulation, psy-ops and any dirty trick in the book - all in the name of ‘Competition’ and being “successful”.
These sick people would sell someone else’s mom as slaves if they could get ahead on that move, but will always appear lovely, friendly etc, simply because that is the image they want people to see, and that is the image they are paying big money to other corps to create.
It is pretty cringe to see people worshipping these disgusting sub-humans in charge of big corp…
I actually saw a similarity in him with powerful black corporate women. The world wants them to fail. If they do, it’s because it’s taboo for them to succeed so they deserve it. Tim masked heavily and succeeded in doing exactly what he needed to do, generate momentum for the next guy.
As an aside:
There will be some quick tells as to whether incoming new Apple CEO John Ternus is more of the same, including seeing whether or not Apple follows Google’s lead and buckles to our mad king’s obsession with trying to rename large bodies of water to feed his gargantuan ego.
John Apple is a spineless fuckwit and immediately capitulated
I heard they are hiding behind explanation that their maps update data automatically from USGIS databases, though that is lame explanation as they can easily override it, like MapQuest did.
When he was changing name of Gulf of Mexico they didn’t have problem to make it show only four US audience.
like MapQuest did.
MapQuest didn’t really do anything, it uses OpenStreetMaps which is a community effort and doesn’t have localized place names the way Google and Apple maps do. E.g country names for me in google maps aren’t their local names, nor the GNIS names you’d see in the US, they’re names in my own language. In Google on particular, there’s literally no “United States” on the map, only “Ameerika Ühendriigid” for me, Apple has fewer localizations but still shows many things in Estonian to me. There’s a large degree of automation there for them to do this in I’m assuming 100+ languages for anything they can (i.e country names and large bodies of water as well as many cities are in Estonian for me, but most other places are just global defaults). Once you start adding manual overrides, shit like this gets way too difficult to manage for little reason.
When he was changing name of Gulf of Mexico they didn’t have problem to make it show only four US audience.
So same as Lake Ontario. Because when you’re in the US, it pulls names from GNIS as far as I know, and in other places it has other sources or just static datasets of their own. I still see Ontario, the global default, in both Google and Apple maps.
15 years later and the Photos app on iOS is still the same nearly useless pile of shit.
It exists to sell iCloud subscriptions, and by that measure (the only one that matters in this world) it’s a huge success.
That is absolutely untrue. Apple has spent tons of time and money in ruining that app and it is a pinnacle of useless trash today thanks to those efforts. Respect.
Your just not using it the Approved Apple Way™ that’s all.
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Timothy Donald Cook (born November 1, 1960) is an American business executive who served as the chief executive officer (CEO) of Apple Inc. from 2011 to 2026, and has been the company’s executive chairman since September 2026.
https://www.macrumors.com/2025/08/07/tim-cook-gift-to-trump/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Cook
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RIP Tim Apple. You embarrassed a once innovative brand but at least you made a lot of money.
Cook diversified Apple’s product lineup, overseeing the introduction of many new products such as the AirPods, Apple Watch, Apple Vision Pro, AirTag, Apple silicon in its Mac lineup and expanding its services business.
Agreed. The new CEO isn’t off to a great start, either. Bending the knee in your first few days is not a good look.
MacOS was so much better when Steve Jobs was in charge.
Tim Cook REALLY made it worse. Steve Jobs made sure the user experience was generally good, although admittedly there were many times when he was pigheaded. On a personal level, Steve Jobs was a terrible person, but he made the operating system very good and very consistent.
And Tim Cook didn’t care about any of that, and macOS is now SUPER inconsistent and much less user friendly. It’s still better than Windows, but MAN is it so so so much worse.
At least he gave us some basic window management features. It’s still miles behind what Windows and Linux has unfortunately.
admittedly there were many times when he was pigheaded
Arguably, he’d still be alive today if he wasn’t so pigheaded.
Behind the Bastards had a good one on Jobs, where they went into a little bit how he believed in this mucus theory, it was pure madness. And it’s why he died.
It’s still better than Windows
The problem there is that Windows has been lowering the bar for a decade now.
Engineers made the OS good. Steve didn’t do shit.
Yeah, Apple were doing so great with their engineers until 1997, and then Jobs came back and ruined things.
Well that’s not correct.
Engineers are great at developing a product.
But having someone at the end who’s using the product and insisting on consistency because he’s anal-retentive and a pain in the ass will mean the product is consistent with the evaluator’s goals.
macOS used to have a lot of underlying features that worked consistently no matter which app you were using, and Apple destroyed that.
Either Jobs was having an effect, or it’s a damned strange coincidence that the severe reduction in consistency in macOS started just at the point that he died.
To be fair, once we reduced electronics to black slabs and tiny earbuds there’s not much more we can revolutionize
We could have not done that, or we could have at least made the software better.
I remember thinking things like rollable screens and shit would be fun, but even that shit no one wants to risk anymore
We could have not done that, or we could have at least made the software better.
Blame jobs, not cook.
Also, fuck jobs, the liver stealing psycho
Blame jobs, not cook.
Why not both?
fuck em both, but Cook wasn’t the one that started the enshittification trend with the ipod
Yea, fuck them both.
