• IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Honestly, I don’t see how you would do it without general AI, which is something that will be solved in the digital domain first anyway.

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      4 months ago

      Eh, it could be done with non-general AI. There are a finite number of different types of things to handle, so as long as it’s not thrown off by some bent steel or some missing consoles, I’d be amazed if they couldn’t automate at least specific ship designs.

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        4 months ago

        They still manually build ships right now what makes you think they could automate taking one apart

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          Firstly, much of shipbuilding is automated. They use robots to paint them and apply anti-fouling coatings. They also use loads and loads of automated machinery to create the steel parts that make up most of the ship. Do you think some dudes are forging rivets, beams, and pipes by hand? No, those are made by machines that make zillions of them.

          Secondly, nearly every ship–even ships that seem generic like big container ships–is a custom, one-off thing. They’re all bespoke (for the most part), being engineered for specific purposes, routes, and they even have “upgrades” for companies that pay extra (e.g. nicer quarters, extra antenna masts, more and special equipment mounting options, etc).

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            4 months ago

            They use robots to paint them and apply anti-fouling coatings. They also use loads and loads of automated machinery to create the steel parts that make up most of the ship. Do you think some dudes are forging rivets, beams, and pipes by hand? No, those are made by machines that make zillions of them.

            The missing piece here is assembly, and disassembly is like 95% of what goes into recycling from what I understand.

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        4 months ago

        Automation requires very high precision/consistency in the parts you want to work on. I seriously doubt that after many years of wear, tear, and impromptu repairs, those ships would be anywhere near consistent enough.

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          4 months ago

          That’s why I said, “eventually with non-general AI”.

          Even a well written algorithm could work with something that’s mostly in expected shape. How in the flying fuck is everyone so brainless that they cannot understand non-general AI can still adapt to things? Fucking hell.

          I’m not talking about current industry practices. I’m talking about combining existing technology with unlimited bidget to create a factory that could kinda’ do the task.

          “Possible” and “practical” are two extremely different things, and you goons pointing out that most obvious basic fact are adding nothing.

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        4 months ago

        A single repair or modification would ruin the entire automation process. One single screw off by a single mm type thing.

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          Why the flying fuck do you think I said, “non-general AI”? Even a well written algorithm could handle things coming in not in perfect shape, yet everyone pretends “non-general AI” means, “execute instructions repeatedly without any input what so ever.”

          Use your brain. Even basic dumb algorithms that can run on an Arduino can respond to input. Machine learning can easily respond to dynamic input, so stop failing to imagine the most basic of basic things I say.

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            4 months ago

            That doesn’t exist yet, and we can’t even build a ship with one. And you’re trying to say we can take one apart?

            Use your fucking brain lmfao. It will be thrown off by bent metal, it will be thrown off by repairs, it will be thrown off by a rusted screw, it will be thrown off by a million other potential issues.

            It ain’t ever gonna work for a billion reasons, you aren’t smarter than other people mate lmfao. You’re dumber for claiming it will even be possible lol. Nice take though.

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              Non-general AI does already exist, at least as far as disassembling something with a blueprint is concerned. If it’s already a trash heap, just scrap it the old fashioned way, you fucking numpty.

              You assume it will be thrown off because you are too stupid to imagine something you don’t understand. There is literally NO reason to assume it’d be dumber than current tech.

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                But nothing would ever be identical to a blueprint because of repairs and modifications man…… add in wear and tear, yeah it ain’t happening.

                That’s the part you can’t understand. We don’t have anything that can perform this yet, if you want to claim it exists, let’s see it then.