Friendly warning. I just spend all yesterday arguing with this person and they believe that all 75% of people who ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a dangerous death cult and if you disagree you are automatically an enabler of all religious abuse ever.
They are probably still salty the mods of atheism removed their last comments.
They do really need a hug, just don’t let them ruin your day.
But they fucking are. If they keep religion to themselves, that would be fine.
Except they usually go out of their way to spread their mental illness, and get more people killed.
The Heritage foundation has religious roots, and are one of the main drivers of conservatism in USA. Trump and company are following their shopping list.
The cuts to USAID will kill an estimated 25 million people, 3.5 times as much as the hollocaust.
JD Vance said if in carrying out Gods commandments leads to the end of the world, then so be it.
they usually go out of their way to spread their mental illness
You are thinking of zealots. The definition of zealotism is someone with strong uncompromising views and tries to push that view onto others.
While you may be unfortunate to live in a place where dangerous zealots are centralised they do remain nothing but a load minority worldwide and do not speak for the infinite variety of personal spiritual contemplations that so many people privately have.
I am not gonna continue this discussion again, i was already called a cancer by snoop just for respectfully disagreeing that 4/5of people supposedly are evil incarnate.
And i fully agree, the world would be better off without all the religious doctrines. Not just the abrahamic ones.
What i disagree with is that having any form private religious contemplations means you are immediately part of a death cult and a horrible person.
Same like not being a vegetarian doesn’t mean you hate all animals.
Getting fulfilment from your job doesn’t mean you agree with capitalism.
Life has nuance, so do personal experiences. Not all forms of religions even require you to have literal believes.But some people want to act like their is no alternative then religious zealot and
Anti-religious zealot.
There is a huge moment of post religion out there that is helping humans get out of superstition. Atheism is one form of that, but not the only one. Grouping them all together as just as bad as the religious abusers is simply not right.
And again, how is that enabling abuse? How is that treating them like a possession?
I’m not excusing his wanting a child army. I’m not excusing his using kids as bullet shields. I’m not excusing any of the other garbage he’s done.
I’m saying that that gif, without any further context, does not immediately scream abuse. You’ve failed to give any evidence counter, just screamed obscenities.
I’ve spent quite a bit of time recently taking to teachers and early development specialists and friends with kids trying to avoid the mistakes my conservative “Christian” parents made. One of the common things they’ve all said is the kid will need time to just be a kid and learn and when they’re busy monkeying around is a good time to do your hobbies and recharge.
I’ve spent 12 hours playing with my friends kids, taking them to a park, pushing on swings, letting them burn off energy and play and explore, and seen them immediately turn around ready to keep going. You’re saying parents are expected to just keep going then? Not, say, set limits and boundaries?
You really need to grow up and actually step into the world and live a little instead of being a keyboard warrior if you think screaming and name calling someone actually asking for an explanation is healthy.
I’m saying that that gif, without any further context, does not immediately scream abuse.
Because you, like Musk, dehumanized the child. But the child is human. That is my objection.
trying to avoid the mistakes my conservative “Christian” parents made
My south baptist parents think they’re going to heaven for hitting my brothers and me. You really should know better than to pretend neglect is acceptable.
One of the common things they’ve all said is the kid will need time to just be a kid and learn and when they’re busy monkeying around is a good time to do your hobbies and recharge.
In the gif, Musk’s child is learning that video games are more important than he is.
You really need to grow up and actually step into the world and live a little instead of being a keyboard warrior if you think screaming and name calling someone actually asking for an explanation is healthy.
You really need to stop defending child abuse. I can’t grow up, shitbags like you told people like my parents that abuse is fine actually.
If this is you with a therapist then you either need to stop and actually listen to them (which you’ve shown here an extreme incapability of listening to others) and do the work, or you need a better therapist.
Step 1: Missinterpret a post, and lash out at random strangers.
Step 2: Make enemies with everyone by calling them every insult you can think of in your blind rage.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit.
Oh, okay, got it. Your entire argument is you were abused so you’re now an expert even though you can’t see through your own rage to spend a half second understand what others are actually saying. I’m done with this.
I genuinely mean this. I hope you find healing and can let go of the hatred because it seems like you still need to.
Thank you. Unfortunately, abuse has been normalized, hence the downvotes, yet no compelling counterarguments.
Children can’t advocate for themselves. They need us to push back against the attitudes that lead to their needless suffering. It’s largely thankless work, but very important.
Thanks. It’s incredibly difficult when people like you are still actively enabling it. It’s like being told to heal from a stab wound while the knife is still in.
To the downvoters: my boomer father was not as into video games as Musk. After coming home from work, my father would sit in the recliner and watch sitcoms on TV. Three’s Company. Cheers. MASH. I have clear memories of lying on the carpet in the living room, staying quiet so he could enjoy his shows, because it was some of the only time I could spend with him.
As an adult with the benefit of hindsight, I can confidently assert that I was abused. There was physical abuse, there was mental and emotional abuse, and I was neglected, but in the socially acceptable way where everyone pretends that being a wage slave and choosing to have kids means that a person is entitled to mistreat those kids.
Do better, please. Children deserve better. Thank you.
I’ll tell you the same thing I tell my closest friend who was also abused as a child and continues to struggle with it to this day.
You had a shit childhood. We all get it. It sucks and it shouldn’t have happened and it shouldn’t happen to any child but it does and it sucks and the world sucks for letting it happen. But it happened in the past. You can’t continue letting the past control your present and your future. You have to take accountability for yourself and your own actions.
My father did the same thing as yours which is very common for his generation and specifically British men. Come home. Plop on couch. Watch TV. I played Lego on the carpet and watched what my father watched. That in and of itself was not child abuse.
This is why you’re getting negative votes and responses.
If you have access to it, please consider therapy.
Fuck you for normalizing child abuse.
Very mature and educational response. Really shows me I know nothing.
Or… Just spitballing, maybe your response was actually immature and misguided?
I genuinely hope you’re okay and get a hug today.
Friendly warning. I just spend all yesterday arguing with this person and they believe that all 75% of people who ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a dangerous death cult and if you disagree you are automatically an enabler of all religious abuse ever.
They are probably still salty the mods of atheism removed their last comments.
They do really need a hug, just don’t let them ruin your day.
Weird how you’re still defending deadly lies instead of the victims. Stop tolerating death cults.
Yeah… I figured that out a couple comments in. I don’t let people on Internet ruin my day thankfully. Thanks for the heads up though
But they fucking are. If they keep religion to themselves, that would be fine.
Except they usually go out of their way to spread their mental illness, and get more people killed.
The Heritage foundation has religious roots, and are one of the main drivers of conservatism in USA. Trump and company are following their shopping list.
The cuts to USAID will kill an estimated 25 million people, 3.5 times as much as the hollocaust.
JD Vance said if in carrying out Gods commandments leads to the end of the world, then so be it.
Correct! Thank you. It is frightening how living human beings will defend literal death cults WHILE THEY ARE KILLING US.
75% of all people… all painted with the same Brush off hate.
This Includes cultural or christian atheists, and other forms of non theological religion
You are thinking of zealots. The definition of zealotism is someone with strong uncompromising views and tries to push that view onto others.
While you may be unfortunate to live in a place where dangerous zealots are centralised they do remain nothing but a load minority worldwide and do not speak for the infinite variety of personal spiritual contemplations that so many people privately have.
I am not gonna continue this discussion again, i was already called a cancer by snoop just for respectfully disagreeing that 4/5of people supposedly are evil incarnate.
They started the fight. Before bullshit, we had reality. People choose to lie about it and they don’t care who it hurts.
I’m not forcing anyone to lie. I’m just observing.
Stop defending liars. The abrahamic faiths are literal death cults.
We’re all better without superstition.
You keep citing the number of believers as if that makes it right. It doesn’t, and people are dying for it.
We should all try to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible.
You really talk a lot like a dangerous religious cultist.
Oops, you forgot the crucial difference again: Evidence.
Nah man, the planet would be really better off without the Abrahamic religions, if you don’t think so, you’re not paying attention
And i fully agree, the world would be better off without all the religious doctrines. Not just the abrahamic ones.
What i disagree with is that having any form private religious contemplations means you are immediately part of a death cult and a horrible person.
Same like not being a vegetarian doesn’t mean you hate all animals.
Getting fulfilment from your job doesn’t mean you agree with capitalism.
Life has nuance, so do personal experiences. Not all forms of religions even require you to have literal believes.But some people want to act like their is no alternative then religious zealot and Anti-religious zealot.
There is a huge moment of post religion out there that is helping humans get out of superstition. Atheism is one form of that, but not the only one. Grouping them all together as just as bad as the religious abusers is simply not right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontheism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism
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Children are people. Not possessions. Not pets. Fuck you for enabling abuse.
And again, how is that enabling abuse? How is that treating them like a possession?
I’m not excusing his wanting a child army. I’m not excusing his using kids as bullet shields. I’m not excusing any of the other garbage he’s done.
I’m saying that that gif, without any further context, does not immediately scream abuse. You’ve failed to give any evidence counter, just screamed obscenities.
I’ve spent quite a bit of time recently taking to teachers and early development specialists and friends with kids trying to avoid the mistakes my conservative “Christian” parents made. One of the common things they’ve all said is the kid will need time to just be a kid and learn and when they’re busy monkeying around is a good time to do your hobbies and recharge.
I’ve spent 12 hours playing with my friends kids, taking them to a park, pushing on swings, letting them burn off energy and play and explore, and seen them immediately turn around ready to keep going. You’re saying parents are expected to just keep going then? Not, say, set limits and boundaries?
You really need to grow up and actually step into the world and live a little instead of being a keyboard warrior if you think screaming and name calling someone actually asking for an explanation is healthy.
Because you, like Musk, dehumanized the child. But the child is human. That is my objection.
My south baptist parents think they’re going to heaven for hitting my brothers and me. You really should know better than to pretend neglect is acceptable.
In the gif, Musk’s child is learning that video games are more important than he is.
You really need to stop defending child abuse. I can’t grow up, shitbags like you told people like my parents that abuse is fine actually.
Get some help, seriously.
The only reason I need help in the first place is because shitbags like you keep blaming the victims and normalizing child abuse.
I have therapy tomorrow. It doesn’t change what my parents did.
If this is you with a therapist then you either need to stop and actually listen to them (which you’ve shown here an extreme incapability of listening to others) and do the work, or you need a better therapist.
Or I was broken beyond repair. Are you a therapist? You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Step 1: Missinterpret a post, and lash out at random strangers. Step 2: Make enemies with everyone by calling them every insult you can think of in your blind rage. Step 3: ??? Step 4: Profit.
Stop defending child abuse.
Oh, okay, got it. Your entire argument is you were abused so you’re now an expert even though you can’t see through your own rage to spend a half second understand what others are actually saying. I’m done with this.
I genuinely mean this. I hope you find healing and can let go of the hatred because it seems like you still need to.
Snoop isn’t wrong. Either you don’t know how to think critically or your being disingenuously ignorant.
Thank you. Unfortunately, abuse has been normalized, hence the downvotes, yet no compelling counterarguments.
Children can’t advocate for themselves. They need us to push back against the attitudes that lead to their needless suffering. It’s largely thankless work, but very important.
Right? To assume the pedo wannabe “might not be as bad as the pic” isn’t very smart
Thanks. It’s incredibly difficult when people like you are still actively enabling it. It’s like being told to heal from a stab wound while the knife is still in.
To the downvoters: my boomer father was not as into video games as Musk. After coming home from work, my father would sit in the recliner and watch sitcoms on TV. Three’s Company. Cheers. MASH. I have clear memories of lying on the carpet in the living room, staying quiet so he could enjoy his shows, because it was some of the only time I could spend with him.
As an adult with the benefit of hindsight, I can confidently assert that I was abused. There was physical abuse, there was mental and emotional abuse, and I was neglected, but in the socially acceptable way where everyone pretends that being a wage slave and choosing to have kids means that a person is entitled to mistreat those kids.
Do better, please. Children deserve better. Thank you.
I’ll tell you the same thing I tell my closest friend who was also abused as a child and continues to struggle with it to this day.
You had a shit childhood. We all get it. It sucks and it shouldn’t have happened and it shouldn’t happen to any child but it does and it sucks and the world sucks for letting it happen. But it happened in the past. You can’t continue letting the past control your present and your future. You have to take accountability for yourself and your own actions.
My father did the same thing as yours which is very common for his generation and specifically British men. Come home. Plop on couch. Watch TV. I played Lego on the carpet and watched what my father watched. That in and of itself was not child abuse.
This is why you’re getting negative votes and responses.
If you have access to it, please consider therapy.