When I signed up for Lemmy, I didn’t know about some wars that existed between instances, and when I chose lemmy.ml I thought, “Why not?”. Tbh, dont think too much about instances.
I signed up because I wanted to get the full Lemmy experience, but I don’t know if some instances block the instance I’m connected , and this is a bit confusing for me. At the beginning, when I joined Lemmy, I remember reading that it is advisable to choose the instance carefully, and I even assume that it was my mistake, but I think it could be a little easier for those who enter the fediverse. I guess. Know nothing at this time.
So, the question is there. Do you judge members by instance? I’m just a normal guy; I don’t like the extreme right or extreme communism. In fact, I think all extremism is stupid. But , if you could enlighten me on this, I would appreciate it.
At this point, I don’t know if I’m blocked by some instances or not. Basically, I want to enjoy having the entire Lemmy experience, where I could read all types of content.
EDIT: during this time, maybe some people judge members because the instance. And I dont like that feel if someone think “oh look this dude, is from lemmy.ml, he is extremist communist, for sure”. However, I’m not. Im just want be a normal guy without any politic side.
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I have an alt account on sh.itjust.works for whenever lemmy.world is down. I’d love to know what you dislike about them so I can determine whether or not I should have a different alt instance. I’m pretty OOTL when it comes to instance drama
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Sh.itjust.works isn’t supposed to be about technology, although I could see how you might get that impression based on the banner picture or name. I mean there’s definitely a lot of tech people but that’s also true of Lemmy as a whole.
It’s just a general purpose server, probably with mostly North American users due to the location. And also an especially high concentration of French Canadians
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I cant stop myself from reading your comments in imqtiepies voice…
God bless and welcome to the BDC
Out of curiosity, could you elaborate on what being a member of sh.itjust.works says about one’s personality?
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To be honest I think your personality sounds pretty based 😄
Have a good day!
this dont make sense for me, but I guess I need to understand your view. As I said, I dont think too much about the instance … And imo dont reflect nothing about me since this is just internet and dont reflect my thoughts. I can be what I want here, nobody knows if im lying or not. I can be one of the brothers of Bradd Pitt and probably some people believe on this lie.
Now I’m understanding some people have some wars between some instances and block some instances. At this point I’m more and more confused tbh. But yeah, ty for your opinion
It’s usually not that users block instances because only certain apps can do that. It’s just that not every instance federates with every other instance. In the case of lemmy.world you can go to lemmy.world/instances and scroll to the bottom to see which instances they don’t federate with. Not federating means that lemmy.world is not “listening” to these instances and as a lemmy.world user you’re therefor not hearing from those people either. If some other instance defederates lemmy.world it means that you can still see posts and comments from the users of that instance but they can’t see yours.
Why? Isn’t world refusing to defederate from threads?
I have never once looked at a user’s instance.
There probably are some people who do, just like how there are people who will judge you based on what brand of pants you wear, but most people are just glad that you’re wearing pants.
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You’re not wearing pants, are you?
Right now, I am, but no promises after I get out of work.
I did before .world degenerated from .LemmyGrad. Other than that, it’s not something I care about
lol, I’m not sure if that’s a typo or not.
I mean, after basically every second comment I saw from hexbear was tankie nonsense I definitely started judging them differently. They’re extremists who seem to want to turn everything into a debate. So I made sure to block them. Most instances are fine though, and are indeed not that different than the brand of pants someone wears: not something I really care about.
Same
If you’re on lemmygrad or hexbear I will immediately dismiss pretty much anything you say and assume you aren’t worth interacting with. Otherwise I don’t put a lot of stock into what instance a user belongs to. Sometimes your instance can indicate that you have certain interests (technology based instances, startrek.website) or how you identify (blahaj.zone, pawb.social, etc).
I have a lot of issues with the admins of lemmy.ml, but I don’t think the users are inherently problematic. The server itself is advertised as being for privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, so I think a lot of people join without realizing the admins enforce their explicitly communist viewpoints that sometimes border on being pretty tanky.
I don’t judge users for their instance. I’ll judge mods and admins for what they promote and allow, but not users. Unless they’re tankies from lemmygrad.
I don’t judge users like that unless they’re from some actually nasty instance. Lemmy.ml is somewhat politically aligned like you said, but it’s still generally a “normal” option, with lots of “normal” users.
You can create more accounts elsewhere to see if your experience changes, but I think ml should be okay.
Edit: And I don’t think carefully choosing an instance is that important. You can always go elsewhere. Just read the rules and if they seem ok, go for it.
I like the experience im having here on lemmy… I dont discuss politic neither politic views. Tbh, dont care about it. I just want to be the full experience of Lemmy, where i can see all communities and dont get blocked , since I choose lemmy.ml because when I did a sign up, Im pretty noob about fediverse.
I dont discuss politic neither politic views. Tbh, dont care about it.
You and me both.
I don’t know know if there’s a good tool to list all instances that defederated yours. I often use lemmyverse.net to find new communities instead of relying on built in search. So if something doesn’t open, I’d at least know something blocks or is blocked by my instance. Though that hasn’t happened yet, probably because this instance is not toxic and also so small that no one even knows about it.
Short answer: yes
Long answer: some of us even have entire instances blockedThe only instance that I’ll usually immediately give a side-eye to is Hexbear, and only them because a significant percentage of those folks have a certain… style and culture that gets on my nerves. But an individual can still be a cool person and it’s not like I’m about to come in the comments and dunk on you or preemptively block you based on your home instance. I block users because they’re assholes, or annoying, or argue in bad faith, not based on where their account is hosted. And I would expect that’s probably consistent across most lemmings. You won’t get a bad rap only for being affiliated with ml. Now if you say something stupid somebody might use it as a bludgeon to talk bad about ml as a whole, or vice versa, but that’s going to happen any time you have something approaching “team sports” like this.
In general, don’t stress this too much. In specific, keep up with what’s happening on your home instance and if they’re doing something you don’t like, pack up and move elsewhere. That’s a core function of the way the fediverse is constructed. If it sucks, hit the bricks. You can just leave, and set up shop in another instance, or host your own, and you aren’t beholden to anyone. But if you don’t care then you don’t have to.
In specific, keep up with what’s happening on your home instance and if they’re doing something you don’t like, pack up and move elsewhere. That’s a core function of the way the fediverse is constructed. If it sucks, hit the bricks. You can just leave, and set up shop in another instance, or host your own, and you aren’t beholden to anyone.
It’s kind of unfortunate that lemmy doesn’t have functionality to facilitate account portability today, providing a way to associate accounts from the view of other users and to migrate settings and the like.
I agree. I hope that makes it into the feature list for the future. It seems like an obvious next step to make that part easier and less painful for users.
a certain… style and culture
“Oh, you don’t love Stalin? Have you considered pee pee poo poo?” -Hexbear, unironically. and when challenged, they double down and act like its some form of moral intellectual superiority
That’s the impression I get. Bunch of college kids learning something new for the first time, think no one else knows it, and therefore they have the best smelling farts.
People, myself included, aren’t fond of lemmy.ml because it pretends to be a privacy-centric instance but it’s actually run by people who defend any and every criticism of Russia and China under the guise of critiquing capitalism.
They commonly say that any bad news about China or Russia is western orphans while everything from their state-run “news” platforms in gospel.
They’re unable to say that two things are true at once, like capitalism is a pure shit system AND China and Russia are fucked for a million reasons specific to them.
People get banned from their server for saying that China is anything but a utopian dream.
And then, yes, people unfairly assume that you must be cool with all that because you’re using their instance. If you’re not married to the idea of staying there, I’d suggest deleting your account and using a different instance.
Last week I made a comment on some post on the /all page. The post was about china and my comment was fairly china positive, imo. A couple hours later I opened my phone again and my inbox was flooded with weird responses as if I had insulted someone’s mother. Turned out it was a post on lemmy.ml. I have the instance blocked now.
When I first found about Lemmy I landed on join-lemmy.org, which told me lemmy.ml is big instance ran by the Lemmy developers, so it sounded like the most “default” option.
Now this thread tells me it has some political affiliation and many people judge/block it… How is someone who only found out about Lemmy supposed to know this.
All else held equal, I’d guess that someone on a .ml instance – which is chosen to refer to “Marxism-Leninism” --is more likely to be far left, just as someone on pawb.social is a furry, lemmy.blahaj.zone to be trans, or aussie.zone to be Australian. Does that mean that everyone on all of those instances are any of those? No, of course not.
And lemmy.ml was the second-largest instance during the outflow from Reddit, so a lot of people just grabbed it.
Personally, in choosing an instance, it probably wouldn’t be the one I’d choose. I also wouldn’t pick it because it’s gonna be where the latest release gets put into production first and you’re liable to crash into any issues – lemmy.world admins, for example, are far more conservative, did minimal patching to fix critical bugs rather than jumping right on 0.19, and their userbase avoided crashing into the broken 0.19 releases. On the other hand, if you’ve established an identity on lemmy.ml and are otherwise happy with it…shrugs
Some instances, like hexbear.net or lemmygrad.ml, are far-out-there enough that some instances might defederate with the instance, which I think is probably a bigger concern. I don’t think that that’s nearly as much a risk with lemmy.ml.
.ml is the country code for mali and is often used bc it’s very cheap
Yeah, I know, but the reason that the lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml crowd is using it isn’t because of association with Mali.
On one side you’re expected to register to an instance that suits you; like, anime fans in ani.social, people interested in LGBT+ topics in blahaj.zone, so goes on. And there’s that common knowledge that, if you feel out-of-place in an instance, you can register to another.
On another, people know that plenty other people don’t know (or don’t care) about instances. And sometimes you get really clueless posters, specially recent redditfugees.
So yes, you’ll be judged by some people. Not by everyone. (Personally I use the user’s instance as a heuristic factor on the type of user that I’m dealing with. But on its own it’s simply too little info to conclude anything.)
Now, regarding specifically lemmy.ml: I was part of that instance for a few years, so be aware that you might run into problems later on because the admin team there is prone to enforce hidden rules. Still, I don’t expect you to be judged based on any “strong” stereotype regarding that instance, as it used to be the flagship instance, so you got plenty “random” users there.
In your settings you can export a file containing all the communities you have subscribed to. Import that file in the settings of your new account on a new instance and then carry on :)
If you’re concerned you should set up accounts on other instances. It’s easy.
And which instance I choose to get the full experience of Lemmy and see all communities?
None, that’s the point. Your experience and what you see depend upon you and your choices. There’s no true Lemmy experience. The freedom and flexibility is the core of federation. You choose what your experience is, not a central arbitrary algorithm written by a for profit megacorp.
A kbin or mbin instance might have the most amount of federation/least restrictive if that’s what you’re concerned with. It’s not lemmy based, but it’s similar.
Kbin.social definitely blocks a lot of nsfw content, but I also see a lot of nsfw communities not being federated on mbin either. At least from lemmynsfw, I’m not too deep into this to know any other with that type of content but that one at least pops up semi-frequently. Might be also possible that kbin / mbin manually lowers the 18+ content in their algorithm so it doesn’t show up as much. Kinda feels like a lot of the 18+ content from let’s say the Ukraine war also doesn’t show up as much on my feed. If I for comparison sake look into my Lemmy based account on mobile then I see a lot of boobies on the general feed.
K/Mbin hides NSFW posts by default and I haven’t try turning it off so I wouldn’t know how it looks without it enabled.
You’ll have to decide on your own. Pick a couple of instances that interest you, then check the list of instances they are federated/defederated with. If you really want to see everything, then pick one that hasn’t defederated with a lot of other instances.
I personally like lemm.ee because the admin is cool and they don’t haphazardly defederate at the slightest inconvenience.
I use lemmy.today. The admin there has explicitly stated in the server rules that they want to try to avoid defederation with other instances – that is, have the users make the decisions as to what they see, not the instance admin. They’re US West Coast, and I think l’d take instance location into account when picking a home instance too, since it affects snappiness.
You can look at the server rules for lemmy instances in the sidebar in the Web UI. You can also see which instances they’ve defederated with, and that can also give you an idea.
Currently, lemmy.today has no defederated instances:
Keep in mind that there’s a lot of stuff out there on the Threadiverse, including far-left and far-right instances. You’ve got instances that have porn communities, like lemmynsfw.com. burggit.moe has lolicon and consentual-nonconsentual content. Some people may want defederation with some instances to ensure that a new community on such an instance doesn’t show up in their All feed or that a new instance that hosts content of some sort generally gets blocked for them – depends on how much you want someone else to censor for you.
lemmy.world is pretty big, I have my account there
I’ve had people guess that I’m probably Canadian since I use lemmy.ca, but for me, generally, I don’t judge people by their instance since I don’t default to looking for it and my default apps don’t display it, but when I’ve gotten into frustrating circular arguments with people I have often noticed that they’re from lemmy.ml.
Personally I think this is why Bluesky’s ATProtocol design of not tying identity to instance is a good thing, but since that’s not opened up yet that’s a little neither here nor there.
At this point, I guess choosing a instance from any country is the best way lol
This is why I threw in with the Star Trek fans. I’m only moderately familiar with Trek but I know these nerds will be nice to everyone.
When I joined Lemmy it felt so nice. It felt like the early Internet; all the bullshit I got used to on Reddit, it wasn’t here. It was like feeling at home.
Nowadays, whenever I see toxic bullshit and sedition disguised as leftism, it’s someone from lemmy.ml; my Lemmy-experience got a lot better after blocking the lemmy.ml-instance. But I will start blocking more aggressively and I hope things get better after the US-elections.
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Not seeing fascists and seeing lots of tankies is a bit of an oxymoron. Tankies are anti-west “communists” who idealize fascist and authoritarian regimes running under the guise of communism.