Context: Simón José Antonio de la Santísima Trinidad Bolívar Ponte y Palacios Blanco also known as Simón Bolívar was a revolutionary figure and namesake for the country of Bolivia.

The Victorian Era is named after Queen Victoria and her depressing clothing choices.

Caesar Salad is named after a Mexican Italian chef, Caesar Cardini. Who is well known for overseeing the Roman Republics collapse into an empire.

      • kunaltyagi@programming.dev
        6·
        29 days ago

        Fun fact: ceasar was pronounced more like Keasar which makes the Kaiser appear more sensible. I wondered for years how that happened and then learned the original pronunciation

        • k0e3@lemmy.ca
          5·
          29 days ago

          We also use the original sound in Japanese for the historical figures and title i.e. カエサル (kaesaru), but the English pronunciation for Caesar salad i.e. シーザーサラダ (shīzā sarada).

          • ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world
            4·
            29 days ago

            I know English does this a decent bit but it always makes me smile when I hear a Japanese person speaking Japanese and then just randomly hitting you with a borrowed English word but with a Japanese accent

            • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
              1·
              28 days ago

              It’s cute until you’re speaking Japanese in Japan and have to remember how to say a particular mangled English word in order to be understood. You have to learn to pronounce so many things ostensibly like a character doing a racist Japanese accent.

              I wore my bureza (blazer) and wai shatsu (white dress shirt) and rode my baiku (bike) to sutaba (starbucks) and bought a koppu (cup) of ko-hi (coffee).

              As a language learner it gets old.

              • ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world
                1·
                28 days ago

                I’ve tried learning a few languages and one of the things I learned is that the accent is part of the language. So yeah it might feel a little racist like you’re doing a caricature but it does actually help native speakers understand you better.

      • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
        6·
        29 days ago

        The sentence right after makes it pretty obvious why too:

        Although caesarean sections were performed in Roman times, no classical source records a mother surviving such a delivery, while Caesar’s mother lived for years after his birth.

        There was no proper understanding (or possibility) of sterile surgery back then, so a c-section was just a death sentence.

      • wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        1·
        29 days ago

        That’s just called a Karen Salad, then. A Caesar Salad’s already been fully perforated before plating and offers no purchase for more knives.

    • Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      3·
      29 days ago

      Might’ve been the other way around, his family was named after the procedure:

      The term has also been explained as deriving from the verb caedere, ‘to cut’, with children delivered this way referred to as caesones. Pliny the Elder refers to a certain Julius Caesar (an ancestor of the famous Roman statesman) as ab utero caeso, ‘cut from the womb’ giving this as an explanation for the cognomen Caesar which was then carried by his descendants.

  • jballs@sh.itjust.works
    16·
    29 days ago

    Caesar Salad is named after a Mexican Italian chef, Caesar Cardini. Who is well known for overseeing the Roman Republics collapse into an empire.

    Lol well played

  • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
    4·
    29 days ago

    Haters will say the Caesar salad wasn’t named after Julius Caesar, but the astute student of history will notice that the salad was named 2,000 years after the emperor was.

      • XiJinpingStanAccount@lemmy.ml
        1·
        29 days ago

        So really all of them just mean Leader. It’s actually something I find interesting. The way we say leader is highly determined by if we like the person/their country/where we are. Like everytime you hear the news say “Supreme Leader”? Thats just them choosing to translate whatever the local version of “leader” is into english in an inflammatory way. It’s also why we call the Saudi Crown Prince that and not “Supreme Leader of Saudi Arabia” because they’re an ally. Despite him being a total despot. Caesar was literally the word for the leader in the roman empire. It’s what you called the Emperor. So all the languages that got latin influence in them have words for leader that come from it.

        Respected Comrade General Secretary in Korea becomes “Supreme Leader” in the US.

        Ayatollah meaning “Sign of God” in Iran becomes “Supreme Leader” in the US.

        Kamala Harris being called the “Border Tzar” in the election is just her being the lead for border issues. But saying that is boring so they say Tzar.

        It’s literally all just PR. Which is why so many places words for leader come from Caesar. Because Rome was seen as this impressive place and future leaders wanted to emulate it. So they called themselves after its leaders. Then you’d have a revolution and the old terms would be toxic. So the new governments would come up with new terms. Executive, Prime Minister, President, General Secretary, Premier, etc. So many words all to mean the same damn thing just because of PR.

        • Talcosis@lemmy.zip
          2·
          29 days ago

          Euphemism treadmill.

          I always thought it was interesting how the term “president” began to proliferate very quickly after the US empire got big enough.

          I think Caesar in particular is more interesting. The original Latin pronunciation is (somewhat disputed, being a dead language and all) likely something along the lines of Kai-tzar. Western Europe emphasized the first syllable, leading to king, while Eastern Europe emphasized the second syllable, leading to tzar.

          This also reveals specific linguistic differences in how language works. English to a great extent, and other romance languages to a lesser extent, usually have the accent on the first syllable of the word, while eastern european languages have a lot more variety in which syllable of the word is emphasized.