A lot of big polluters are publicly traded companies. Owning shares of US public companies means you can go to shareholder meetings, vote, and other rights.
What do all think of a non profit that runs and is funded with an endowment composed of big polluters like oil companies and using the dividends to fund climate initiatives? In the mean time, using the seat at the table to influence other shareholders to reduce emissions, which is in their long term interest anyways.
If the endowment dries up, mission accomplished. If it grows, more money to act with.
What do all think?
argument through analogy is a logical fallacy, I’m not going to engage that.
you’ve yet to convince me that further entrenching capitalism (which requires scarcity to the extent that it will create it where there need be none, and demands endless quarterly growth within a limited system) is a solution to the environmental destruction to which it contributes.
it seems to me as though you would like to eat your cake and have it too.
private ownership of capital is a race to the bottom, leading inevitably to unsustainable extraction of natural resources. The latter won’t be halted or reversed without abolishing the former.
we need power to be distributed horizontally, not continue to be concentrated in fewer and fewer actors.
Your argument is you don’t like the tool. My argument is we shouldn’t not use a tool because bad actors use a tool for bad things. Not using a tool means we don’t benefit from the good things it can be used for. I just gave examples demonstrating it.
Explain how this entrenches capitalism? I see it as working within the environment. Buying anything from a for profit company or working for a for profit company entrenches capitalism. Using a 401k does too. You can vote, run for office, whatever, but in a capitalist economy, you can’t avoid participating in it, i.e. entrenching it.
I don’t have any love for capitalism. I’m just a person that sees a problem and is doing their best to fix it. I’d appreciate it if you wouldn’t question my intentions because you don’t like my idea. I’ll give you the same benefit of the doubt. Deal?
your position presupposes that capitalism can serve to improve our collective wellbeing, when it is fundamentally an oppressive heirarchy enforced through violence.
news flash: if you do not own capital, capitalism’s essential function is not to improve your material condition, but that of the capital owning class.
your clumsy attempt prior to smear me as a supporter of imperialist aggression (because i criticize your naivete in trying to weild a system that robs you of any agency besides that of the consumer) undermines your claim that you are deserve the benefit of doubt.