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  • ThatGuy@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Reddit isnt dead yet, and it will be much harder for youtube to die. Kinda hard to make creators move when its their job, and without them moving, there is no chance of any progress occuring.

    Right now, the best thing they can do is host their content on youtube AND other alternatives like Odyssey. This lets them make the same money they always had, but also gives people an option to watch it somewhere else. Unfortuately, your average youtuber is completely clueless about this option and so you mainly only see tech people doing it with only a few exceptions here and there.

  • patryk@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    YouTube won’t die anytime soon because running a Video Streaming Platform is way too expensive if you’re not a big company. So there’s no good alternatives. PeerTube Instances couldn’t handle the massive data that YouTube can

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      because running a Video Streaming Platform is way too expensive

      Youtube CAN die, even without an alternative. But I understood what you meant

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    Youtube is far too expensive for anyone to try and run a competitor to. I don’t think we’ll ever see a replacement.

    Google is still losing money on it, and might never make it profitable. There’s a real risk that Youtube just dies on its own and nothing replaces it.

  • vortexal@sopuli.xyz
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    Never, the big name content creators will never boycott YouTube like Reddit mods for large subs did because YouTube pays them and no one takes alternatives seriously enough to even just mirror their content on an alternative. I’ve been trying to support YouTube alternatives as much as I can but I’m only one person, I’d be naive to think that I alone could make a difference.

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    I don’t think anything will ever replace YouTube. Did you ever wonder why there aren’t many good alternatives?

    It’s because video streaming websites are very expensive and usually run at a loss. The storage and bandwidth to support all these users constantly uploading and watching videos is really high. It’s why the Twitch competitor Mixer shut down a few years ago, it was bleeding money.

    I use an adblocker and hate ads as much as the next person but imo prople do take these video services for granted. They need ads to survive and I can’t imagine a world where I’d need to pay a subscription to use them.

  • RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Can anyone eli5 why pornhub doesn’t just use their long standing streaming infrastructure to create a sfw site like… Idk “VidHub”? I feel like they could be a genuine competition with very little adjustment.

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      Youtube is waaaay different from pornhub. The amount of people uploading porn doesnt even begin to approach the amount of people uploading sfw content.

      You can feasibly make people pay for porn, especially if you get a hot girl to advertise the content to lonely men.

      SFW content though? How do you convince someone to pay for a gaming VOD, or some other type of mundane content? Hosting sfw video is just not profitable on the scale that youtube does it. Not without the backing of some SERIOUS money 😬

  • mmmplak@kbin.social
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    Youtube is one of the things that less techie people think of when it comes to internet videos. It’s quite mainstream and will stay for long.

    • jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Neither is Digg. Or myspace. Or many of dozens of services that used to be popular and fell into irrelevance.

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        Lemmy is irrelevant compared to Reddit. Completely and utterly. There’s what, a single medium-sized subreddit over all instances here?

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              And they were implied in my own, but I’m happy to extend my statement for you: Being in its infancy doesn’t make it irrelevant compared to Reddit. In fact, that line of thinking from Reddit’s leadership will lead them to obscurity more quickly than if they take this seriously. Just existing as a viable alternative is a big deal. We haven’t had one for a very long time.

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          @thiccdiccnicc Digg, myspace and heck ebaumsworld were all places that eventually started dying at some point. I just deleted my 3rd party app for Reddit to prevent my autopilot from clicking on the icon. If someone like me is done with Reddit, I imagine there’s many that feel the same way. In fact, even if spez stepped down, I don’t think I’d return to a centralized platform anymore.

          @IsThisLemmyOpen @pasci_lei @jmcs

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            Perhaps it is dying, it’s still to early to know yet. We’ve sung the song about Facebook dying for ages and here it is, still dominating by numbers. Lemmy and federation in general has some work to be done (which I am actually putting effort into!) in order to adsorb the userbase of a tech behemoth like Reddit.

            Are we making great process? Yes! But to start saying “dies like Reddit did” or an equivalent superficial statement is putting the cart before the horse, no?

  • CIWS-30@kbin.social
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    Youtube’ll probably last for a while, but it feels like it’s getting shittier each year. Search is terrible now, and then there are those in-video cards you can’t get rid of, even though there’s a checkbox in the settings (at least on Browsers) to get rid of them, they don’t actually go away unless you use an adblocker.

    Plus, the algorithm is stupid, and when you search there’s no common sense filters like don’t show things I downvoted, or don’t show things I’ve already watched today. At the very least, Youtube needs some serious competition for it to shape up and stop doing dumb things that annoy everyone.

    I hate that Tiktok’s run by the Chinese government to spy on people of interest (like journalists), but it’s giving Youtube some much needed competition otherwise.

  • Jomn@lemmy.ml
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    I wish PeerTube (or other similar alternatives) would seriously take off. But the cost of operating such a service at a large scale, and the fact that most content creators don’t even try to find or to set up alternatives, makes it very hard for YouTube to fail. It’s pretty sad because many of these same content creators will frequently complain about censorship and demonetization, without actually doing anything about it…

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    There are already many other sites and as YouTube keeps getting worse and greedier there will probably be more and more creators going elsewhere.

    One example is firearms content moving to utreon. And obviously nsfw which has never been welcome there being available on many other hosts.

    YouTube is not the only possible video service that can exist in the world.

    It’s unlikely that another monopoly can take over their business as a whole, but YouTube can definitely fail and video hosting has long been fragmented.

    • notun@lemmy.world
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      The worst thing about youtube is that they forced all my favourite youtubers into becoming streamers, and that’s just an entirely different type of content.

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    Maybe when technology gets to a certain point all that data storage will be a lot cheaper. Atm the best alternative I have seen is Dailymotion but they are nowhere near the scale of youtube.

    • avapa@lemmy.world
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      Yes! The amount of storage YouTube requires is absolutely bonkers and there’s simply no way to finance that unless you’re backed by a trillion dollar company, unfortunately. AFAIK YouTube still operates on a loss

  • gapbetweenus@kbin.social
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    Not sooner as someone figuring out a way for cheaper video hosting. I don’t think youtube is even profitable.