I don’t blame them. Ukraine needs to take the war to Russia to win.

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    8 months ago

    If Ukraine wants US money, maybe they should listen to them?

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        I have this feeling if Ukraine used the cash portion of the aid packages to lobby and buy the politicians they might be actually be able to supply themselves with meaningful procurement.

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        I feel it’s a seismic shift in the position of the USA as a world power. Netanyahu has stopped listening and has faced no repercussions, so naturally Zelenskyy is doing the same. Completely withdrawing support for both Israel and Ukraine doesn’t appear to be in the USA’s best interests.

        This could be a stretch but maybe it has to do with Trump and the likelihood he’s going to turn around and tell both sides to quit prolonging these wars and either finish off their opponents or get to signing a peace treaty.

        For Israel it means escalating (as evidenced by how they’re poking the other bear - Iran - in the region) and for the Ukraine doing as much damage as possible to weaken the Russians so a peace treaty appears the better option over continuing to fight against an opponent who won’t lay down.

        I could also be talking out of my exhaust pipe. I’ve been paying less and less attention to these conflicts the longer they’ve gone on.

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          8 months ago

          That filthy orange traitor isn’t getting back into the Whitehouse

          And it’s just Ukraine, not “the Ukraine”. Your use of the official Russian belittlement tells me all I need to know.

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            Trump can still win. Part of his path to victory is useful idiots in the left voting PSL while chanting “Genocide Joe” and pretending the trolley problem doesn’t exist and that they’re not strapped to the track their decision is leading towards.

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            8 months ago

            In Australian media they are referred to as Ukraine and the Ukraine. You certainly missed that I used both conventions. Try not to assume that the language used denotes a position.

            As for Trump, I certainly hope he is not elected again, but the election needs to happen first.