“We believe the prerequisite for meaningful diplomacy and real peace is a stronger Ukraine, capable of deterring and defending against any future aggression,” Blinken said in a speech in Finland, which recently became NATO’s newest member and shares a long border with Russia.

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    The motivations of the west were exactly the same in each of those instances, and one has to work really hard to not understand what these motivations actually are.

    Just because others don’t agree with your imaginings (and laughably ignorant assessment) doesn’t mean we have to work hard. Acknowledging reality, in fact, requires very little “work”.

    Also, please stop projecting. The only one here who’s angry and spewing nonsense here is you.

    Criticizing you isn’t “protection” nor is pointing out the obviousness of your biases. and I already pointed out how childish the whole “I know you are but what I am?” thing is, but if you want to keep up with that, that’s on you.

    I’ve provided actual sources and detailed explanations for my position. All you’ve done was regurgitate propaganda drivel.

    posting a bunch of pictures of where ethnic Russians live doesn’t magically make an illegal invasion legal. THAT is, as you say “propaganda drivel”, but that’s for playing, lmao

    Also, whataboutism is a logical fallacy used by pseudo intellectuals to create a double standard for their own actions and those of others

    well, at least you admit what you’ve done wrong. but will you stop? i doubt you’ll do more that try to blame me for your actions while claiming to be a victim…

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      Just because others don’t agree with your imaginings (and laughably ignorant assessment) doesn’t mean we have to work hard. Acknowledging reality, in fact, requires very little “work”.

      I think you’ve established pretty firmly your inability to acknowledge reality here.

      Criticizing you isn’t “protection” nor is pointing out the obviousness of your biases. and I already pointed out how childish the whole “I know you are but what I am?” thing is, but if you want to keep up with that, that’s on you.

      You’re not criticizing anything, you keep regurgitating nonsense here confidently and ignoring actual facts presented to you. Couldn’t even be bothered to read the the study your own regime put out.

      posting a bunch of pictures of where ethnic Russians live doesn’t magically make an illegal invasion legal. THAT is, as you say “propaganda drivel”, but that’s for playing, lmao

      LMAO children are capable of higher level of discourse than this.

      well, at least you admit what you’ve done wrong. but will you stop? i doubt you’ll do more that try to blame me for your actions while claiming to be a victim…

      I guess having poor reading comprehension explains a lot about your comments.

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        I think you’ve established pretty firmly your inability to acknowledge reality here.

        there’s that childish “I know you are put what am I?” thing again.

        You’re not criticizing anything,

        now who’s denying reality? lol

        you keep regurgitating nonsense here confidently and ignoring actual facts presented to you. Couldn’t even be bothered to read the the study your own regime put out.

        weren’t you just accusing me of projection? and it’s always fascinating to me when people on the internet claim to be psychic. i did read it-- it’s simply, as I’ve said, dubious as an objection since it’s irrelevant and also reveals your obvious bias. You clearly don’t like that someone’s standing up to Russia’s imperialistic bullying, so you blame the victim and anyone who helps them stand up to the bully. just because the US may also benefit in other ways is irrelevant, and nothing you’ve said can prove otherwise.

        You can whine and moan all you like, but that’s all it is: whining and moaning because Russia’s bullying is meeting forceful opposition and they’re looking like fools as a result.

        just because some Russians happen to live in Ukraine doesn’t make it ok for Russia to invade, and the fact that you would make such an absurd argument just shows that not only are you incapable of making a rational argument, you’re clearly not willing to listen to one. That’s backed up by your incessant use of an arsenal of logical fallacies from false equivalence, red herrings, whataboutisms, to ad hominem personal attacks and the constant moving of the goalposts.

        Since I can’t reason you out of the position you didn’t reason yourself into, I don’t see the point of continuing this conversation.

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          there’s that childish “I know you are put what am I?” thing again.

          Oh look more projection

          now who’s denying reality? lol

          I see you’re confusing name calling with making actual criticisms. You haven’t addressed a single point I made. Yet, here you are projecting and posturing again.

          You can whine and moan all you like, but that’s all it is: whining and moaning because Russia’s bullying is meeting forceful opposition and they’re looking like fools as a result.

          Only one moaning here is you bud. I love how you can’t actually make a coherent argument and just use name calling instead like the child that you are.

          just because some Russians happen to live in Ukraine doesn’t make it ok for Russia to invade

          Nice straw man, nobody made this argument here. The fact that you’re using this straw man clearly demonstrates that it is in fact you who are incapable of making a rational argument.

          Since I can’t reason you out of the position you didn’t reason yourself into, I don’t see the point of continuing this conversation.

          Oh thank goodness, I thought you’d never stop regurgitating nonsense here.

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            there’s that “i know you ae but what am I?” thing again…

            “DARVO is an acronym used to describe a common strategy of abusers. The abuser will: Deny the abuse ever took place, then Attack the victim for attempting to hold the abuser accountable; then they will lie and claim that they, the abuser, are the real victim in the situation, thus Reversing the Victim and Offender.”