• BoofStroke@sh.itjust.works
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    7 months ago

    You can demonize the current president over one issue that is overseas, or you can not vote or vote for the other guy who will not accomplish anything but Israel support and worse.

    Weigh what has been accomplished vs your issue vs the alternatives and vote accordingly.

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      7 months ago

      You could vote for the guy who thinks WiFi gives you leaky brain and vaccines open portals to hell instead. That’d show everyone!

      • theareciboincident@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        7 months ago

        The most fascinating thing about blue MAGATs is how they keep peddling this narrative that leftists will vote for Trump.

        None of the leftist discourse online I have ever seen has embraced this idea. Admittedly I never see lemmygrad posts due to instance.

        So in your worst case, a fringe group of like 3000 hardcore Putin supporters will maybe vote Trump for fun. The West has fallen.

        Maybe when your only talking point is “it’s just a little genocide”, it’s time to reflect.

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          7 months ago

          I was actually joking about people throwing their vote away on RFK. Because with FPTP our choices are assisting with genocide or committing genocide and the murder of political rivals.

          I’m not defending anyone. I think what’s happening is fucking reprehensible. The alternative happens to be way fucking worse. And until we can get ranked choice, STAR, or some other voting method that better reflects the will of the people that’s how it’s going to be. All the name calling and progressive purity tests in the world won’t change that.

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            6 months ago

            Our voting method is just one of the many myriad problems with how we elect government officials. Even if that was fixed we’d still be ruled by low-population states, and the president can be elected with 20% of the vote.

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        7 months ago

        Not only that, he said recently that these protests wouldn’t be happening if he was in the White House. His positions on Palestine and left-leaning protests have not exactly been subtle.

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      7 months ago

      So that’s American tax dollars that could go to funding things that actually impact Americans directly.

      Maintaining peace in the Middle East is important- and the one of the most egregious arguments before all this happened is to provide leverage to keep Israel…. From doing … this.

      The reality is that argument is a lie. The war in gaza has set back the goal of peace in the Middle East by decades. Maybe even centuries, while bringing us inexorably closer to WW3.

      If Biden reverse course now… he has a chance. If he stays the angry old Zionist, though… he’s going to lose in November.

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          7 months ago

          We should all vote for Biden. Biden should stop supporting genocide.

          And I get that you want to paint everyone who doesn’t support Netanyahu’s genocide as ignorant children, but it’s just not so. Abuse is not a substitute for defensible positions.

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      7 months ago

      Absolutely protest in order to try to bring about policy changes. But when it comes time to elect leadership, do it wisely.

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        7 months ago

        Sounds like people should be protesting for electoral reform so they can vote for the candidate that represents them best, while still counting their vote against the republicans.