Look I fucking hated the masks but also get why we needed them and wore mine. Why the fuck does anyone care if someone else is wearing one…that for them. It like being offended someone is wearing Jordans…it’s not your feet.
Leave people be and if I’m afraid I’m going to catch the plague then I’m wearing a mask.
And people can say what they will about effectiveness All I know is for 2 years I wore one and didn’t catch a damn cold.
Why the fuck does anyone care if someone else is wearing one
It’s because all people are emotional first, and many people are stupid, too.
Seeing a mask makes them think about the pandemic, disease, mortality, death, all that heavy stuff. That feels bad. Rather than deal with that in a healthy way, they can just lash out at the thing that’s bringing the bad-feels to the foreground. That is stupid. That’s yelling at the smoke detector instead of doing something about the fire.
Accepting that wearing a mask is a reasonable choice means accepting a bunch of other uncomfortable things.
This can also go down the “in group good, outgroup bad” route. Belief is social. People do shit to feel like they’re part of the group. Somehow wearing masks became political.
Yeah, as someone who still frequently wears a mask, I occasionally get comments, but telling the person off because they have no idea that my partner/child/sister/mom/grandparents may have compromised immune systems usually shuts them the fuck up.
All I know is for 2 years I wore one and didn’t catch a damn cold.
I’ve cohabited with someone with a major immunity problem and had to take normal, established-before-covid guidelines for making sure I don’t bring back a virus that would kill someone I care about. I wore a mask for months going out, washed my hands, avoided crowds. Never got sick.
So that was before covid. Imagine how it feels seeing the whole world be advised to do the same thing, and absolutely losing their collective mind about it, while millions of people died.
It will never make sense. I mean, logically I have studied psychology and have come to understand the mechanics of people’s irrational, emotional reactions. What doesn’t make sense is how we elected a clown that led our nation in the direction of chaos and followed his example.
Like for real what is the point of it it’s like banning flip-flops that are blue it doesn’t affect anyone of something person wearing the mask. If I’m not making you have to wear a mask when you go outside then shut up about it man. If I feel safer wearing when I feel safer wearing one it’s not the end of the world I feel safe wearing a hat sometimes… We’re not going to ban all hats it’s my choice to wear the damn hat… If I want to wear a mask I can wear a mask.
I fully expect that when they’ve run out of culture war ideas, current Republicans will start demanding that cars of a certain color can only park in certain spots or drive in certain lanes.
Yeah, the point of their politics is to start the sheep stampeding from one fear to the next, ignoring their own needs while hurting everyone around them.
I often self reflect and see just as much bullshit from my own house. The point of their politics is independence. Driven by the sense of the frontiersman in their chuck wagon. The mentality that only they can take care of them selves and government is there to take away rather than help. The left is more of a garrison mentality where everybody’s actions affects each other and if any step out of line they must be thrown out beyond the walls because without working together we don’t survive the winter. Especially with assholes trying to take all rations a provisions for themselves.
I fully expect that when they’ve run out of culture war ideas, current Republicans will start demanding that cars of a certain color can only park in certain spots or drive in certain lanes.
They will find a way to associate one or two specific colors with either the queer community or antifa (red and black anyone) - and that will be how it starts.
You have to get into the mindset: this isn’t about making sense, it’s about retribution/revenge. During the pandemic, there was a period where to go certain places you had to wear a mask and/or be vaccinated. That was because there was data saying those things inhibited the spread of the virus, but many conservatives felt they shouldn’t have to because of personal freedom. Now they feel turnabout is fair play, and are saying you can’t go certain places if you’re wearing a mask. It doesn’t matter that they argued for personal freedom, this is retribution.
It used to be that antivax people held those views because they thought vaccinations caused bad things. Those people still exist, but now there are a bunch for whom it’s all about personal freedom, and only because they were told they had to get a COVID vaccine.
Exactly it. My libertarian frienemy in one breath will tell you how he bought up a bunch of N95 masks before the lockdown, specifically going against the WHO’s (or was it CDC?) advice to not horde masks back in 2020. Then in the next, he’ll tell you how you’re afraid of life if you wore a mask during the lockdown. And then he went out of his way to make sure his kid was the only kid not required to wear a mask once schools opened up again, forbid his wife from vaccinating their son, etc.
It had nothing to do with science. He just went against whatever was recommended. For freedums or something.
Exactly. If the CDC or scientific community had said that only medical practitioner should ever wear masks, all the conservatives would have been wearing them. Of course, in that scenario, liberals wouldn’t have.
Their only philosophical ideals are obstruction, retribution, and contrarianism.
Don’t give a flying shit about that useless boondoggle homeland security their anit American goal or objective fu k them, they should be disbanded and sent to work at dollar general.
It’s about a political as glasses, braces, crutches, wheelchairs, insulin pumps, or any other exterior medical devices. Fuck off with that false equivalency bullshit.
i came here from the modlog and i just want to say that i think the removal is fine(ish), and the comment to which i’m replying is, basically, wrong, but the mod’s explanation is also wrong and needs to be called out.
everything is political, even birth control, and it would be even if no one was trying to ban it (though i think it was inevitable that this is the case). birth control is a means by which people who can become pregnant can actively choose to prevent that. pregnancy comes with a variety of political expectations and consequences, and so choosing to prevent pregnancy is political.
as for the mask thing, i do think that there are some very-online right wingers who would have the same analysis as the user to whom i am responding, but, in fact, that reasoning is a desire to avoid political entanglement, so it is not actually an explanation of how masking is political. it’s also not the case that wearing the mask is carrying a banner for fauci, although i believe there are factions on the right who see it this way.
so, to reiterate, removing was fine (though probably unnecessary), the commenter is a dum dum, but the mod doesn’t know what “political” means and that is a really bad omen for this sub.
But as a devil’s advocate, it was just my observation of where I live in the US. I was trying to convery the general mood around me, and it was very toned down from what my neighbors actually said and did at the height of the pandemic. For reference, my neighbor had an anti mask party when covid was raging, and they were very liberal for this neighborhood… it still kind of boggles my mind.
I meant to present it as something absurd, not an opinion that I thought was reasonable.
Not to anyone except these crybullies. A crude hat would be crude for some visible reason other than being a hat.
A mask is only political to these assholes trying to stop people from wearing it, and during the pandemic it was only political to the same assholes who couldn’t recognize that their personal freedom didn’t extend to increasing risks to the immunocompromised, elderly, and others who were at high risk.
The freedom they demanded then would have had health implications for people around them, and the freedom they are trying to take away now has health implications for many of the people still choosing to mask up.
I dunno. I felt judged whenever I was walking around wearing a mask. One time I put one on when some guy walked up to me when I was walking my dog, and it kinda started an argument. A tow truck driver literally told me masks were government control devices before he jumped our car.
I felt like I was masking alone sometimes, like I was offending the public for doing it.
Just because that’s absurd doesn’t mean masses of people didn’t see masking as political. To me, it was kinda hard to ignore.
Look I fucking hated the masks but also get why we needed them and wore mine. Why the fuck does anyone care if someone else is wearing one…that for them. It like being offended someone is wearing Jordans…it’s not your feet.
Leave people be and if I’m afraid I’m going to catch the plague then I’m wearing a mask.
And people can say what they will about effectiveness All I know is for 2 years I wore one and didn’t catch a damn cold.
It’s because all people are emotional first, and many people are stupid, too.
Seeing a mask makes them think about the pandemic, disease, mortality, death, all that heavy stuff. That feels bad. Rather than deal with that in a healthy way, they can just lash out at the thing that’s bringing the bad-feels to the foreground. That is stupid. That’s yelling at the smoke detector instead of doing something about the fire.
Accepting that wearing a mask is a reasonable choice means accepting a bunch of other uncomfortable things.
This can also go down the “in group good, outgroup bad” route. Belief is social. People do shit to feel like they’re part of the group. Somehow wearing masks became political.
It was Trump.
He had a lot of help.
Yeah, as someone who still frequently wears a mask, I occasionally get comments, but telling the person off because they have no idea that my partner/child/sister/mom/grandparents may have compromised immune systems usually shuts them the fuck up.
Amazing summation, hit every point perfectly. Bravo.
I’ve cohabited with someone with a major immunity problem and had to take normal, established-before-covid guidelines for making sure I don’t bring back a virus that would kill someone I care about. I wore a mask for months going out, washed my hands, avoided crowds. Never got sick.
So that was before covid. Imagine how it feels seeing the whole world be advised to do the same thing, and absolutely losing their collective mind about it, while millions of people died.
It will never make sense. I mean, logically I have studied psychology and have come to understand the mechanics of people’s irrational, emotional reactions. What doesn’t make sense is how we elected a clown that led our nation in the direction of chaos and followed his example.
Or how it’s a coin flip if he gets a second chance…
Like for real what is the point of it it’s like banning flip-flops that are blue it doesn’t affect anyone of something person wearing the mask. If I’m not making you have to wear a mask when you go outside then shut up about it man. If I feel safer wearing when I feel safer wearing one it’s not the end of the world I feel safe wearing a hat sometimes… We’re not going to ban all hats it’s my choice to wear the damn hat… If I want to wear a mask I can wear a mask.
I fully expect that when they’ve run out of culture war ideas, current Republicans will start demanding that cars of a certain color can only park in certain spots or drive in certain lanes.
I find they never do. We all just rotate things in and out every few years
Yeah, the point of their politics is to start the sheep stampeding from one fear to the next, ignoring their own needs while hurting everyone around them.
I often self reflect and see just as much bullshit from my own house. The point of their politics is independence. Driven by the sense of the frontiersman in their chuck wagon. The mentality that only they can take care of them selves and government is there to take away rather than help. The left is more of a garrison mentality where everybody’s actions affects each other and if any step out of line they must be thrown out beyond the walls because without working together we don’t survive the winter. Especially with assholes trying to take all rations a provisions for themselves.
They will find a way to associate one or two specific colors with either the queer community or antifa (red and black anyone) - and that will be how it starts.
I hope our history books in the future really lean hard into how stupid the population was this century.
Haha, just kidding, I know there likely won’t be any history books or people. lol.
Well you have to be able to read for the books to be worth a damn
You have to get into the mindset: this isn’t about making sense, it’s about retribution/revenge. During the pandemic, there was a period where to go certain places you had to wear a mask and/or be vaccinated. That was because there was data saying those things inhibited the spread of the virus, but many conservatives felt they shouldn’t have to because of personal freedom. Now they feel turnabout is fair play, and are saying you can’t go certain places if you’re wearing a mask. It doesn’t matter that they argued for personal freedom, this is retribution.
It used to be that antivax people held those views because they thought vaccinations caused bad things. Those people still exist, but now there are a bunch for whom it’s all about personal freedom, and only because they were told they had to get a COVID vaccine.
Exactly it. My libertarian frienemy in one breath will tell you how he bought up a bunch of N95 masks before the lockdown, specifically going against the WHO’s (or was it CDC?) advice to not horde masks back in 2020. Then in the next, he’ll tell you how you’re afraid of life if you wore a mask during the lockdown. And then he went out of his way to make sure his kid was the only kid not required to wear a mask once schools opened up again, forbid his wife from vaccinating their son, etc.
It had nothing to do with science. He just went against whatever was recommended. For freedums or something.
Exactly. If the CDC or scientific community had said that only medical practitioner should ever wear masks, all the conservatives would have been wearing them. Of course, in that scenario, liberals wouldn’t have.
Their only philosophical ideals are obstruction, retribution, and contrarianism.
Cannot facial recognize the plebs if they are wearing a mask.
Don’t give a flying shit about that useless boondoggle homeland security their anit American goal or objective fu k them, they should be disbanded and sent to work at dollar general.
Removed by mod
It’s about a political as glasses, braces, crutches, wheelchairs, insulin pumps, or any other exterior medical devices. Fuck off with that false equivalency bullshit.
i came here from the modlog and i just want to say that i think the removal is fine(ish), and the comment to which i’m replying is, basically, wrong, but the mod’s explanation is also wrong and needs to be called out.
everything is political, even birth control, and it would be even if no one was trying to ban it (though i think it was inevitable that this is the case). birth control is a means by which people who can become pregnant can actively choose to prevent that. pregnancy comes with a variety of political expectations and consequences, and so choosing to prevent pregnancy is political.
as for the mask thing, i do think that there are some very-online right wingers who would have the same analysis as the user to whom i am responding, but, in fact, that reasoning is a desire to avoid political entanglement, so it is not actually an explanation of how masking is political. it’s also not the case that wearing the mask is carrying a banner for fauci, although i believe there are factions on the right who see it this way.
so, to reiterate, removing was fine (though probably unnecessary), the commenter is a dum dum, but the mod doesn’t know what “political” means and that is a really bad omen for this sub.
It was a late night comment in bad taste, yeah.
But as a devil’s advocate, it was just my observation of where I live in the US. I was trying to convery the general mood around me, and it was very toned down from what my neighbors actually said and did at the height of the pandemic. For reference, my neighbor had an anti mask party when covid was raging, and they were very liberal for this neighborhood… it still kind of boggles my mind.
I meant to present it as something absurd, not an opinion that I thought was reasonable.
Not to anyone except these crybullies. A crude hat would be crude for some visible reason other than being a hat.
A mask is only political to these assholes trying to stop people from wearing it, and during the pandemic it was only political to the same assholes who couldn’t recognize that their personal freedom didn’t extend to increasing risks to the immunocompromised, elderly, and others who were at high risk.
The freedom they demanded then would have had health implications for people around them, and the freedom they are trying to take away now has health implications for many of the people still choosing to mask up.
I dunno. I felt judged whenever I was walking around wearing a mask. One time I put one on when some guy walked up to me when I was walking my dog, and it kinda started an argument. A tow truck driver literally told me masks were government control devices before he jumped our car.
I felt like I was masking alone sometimes, like I was offending the public for doing it.
Just because that’s absurd doesn’t mean masses of people didn’t see masking as political. To me, it was kinda hard to ignore.
They made it political. Your wearing of the mask was not political. (based on your description anyhow)
No, I never meant for it to be. I just wanted to stay alive and not give covid to someone else like, you know, someone sane.
But alas I didn’t want it to be political, but it was. I could assert that all I want, and it doesn’t change the community I had to interact with.
I see your point, I’m just saying that’s on them, not you. You took a reasonable action.
It’s so they don’t look racist when they are afraid of being robbed and tell a black person to take off a mask.
I mean, if this wasn’t an airport restaurant maybe