The not-tipping argument really only works if you’re ordering a black coffee
Why? It’s their job to make coffee. The company should pay them enough to not have to beg for additional money on top of the compensation they already receive. This is the way it works in other parts of the world.
Agree. In the US the tipping culture has gotten out of hand. Tipping is meant to cover situations where it’s legal to pay your staff under minimum wage and thus tipping evens that out (I still hate it but that’s the current law). I only tip in those industries, or industries where the person providing the service is self-employed/subcontracting in most situations (salons, spas, etc), or where the service is above and beyond or very specialized. Otherwise, it only encourages a culture where it’s expected that the consumer subsidize wages.
I do understand that tipping gives more $ in the pocket of lower wage workers, but I feel too strongly that it will lead to an eventual shift of tipping for ANY service I the long run and I cannot encourage that. I own a small business and I pay my employees very well. It is the responsibility of the employer to do this not the consumer/customer/client.
Again, if you are concerned about money, you can get cheap coffee at home. If you want someone to make it for you, you should understand the actual cost in US capitalistic society.
Until the company pays a living wage, buying coffee without tipping is agreeing that the business paying less than a living wage is acceptable.
Why? It’s their job to make coffee. The company should pay them enough to not have to beg for additional money on top of the compensation they already receive. This is the way it works in other parts of the world.
Agree. In the US the tipping culture has gotten out of hand. Tipping is meant to cover situations where it’s legal to pay your staff under minimum wage and thus tipping evens that out (I still hate it but that’s the current law). I only tip in those industries, or industries where the person providing the service is self-employed/subcontracting in most situations (salons, spas, etc), or where the service is above and beyond or very specialized. Otherwise, it only encourages a culture where it’s expected that the consumer subsidize wages.
I do understand that tipping gives more $ in the pocket of lower wage workers, but I feel too strongly that it will lead to an eventual shift of tipping for ANY service I the long run and I cannot encourage that. I own a small business and I pay my employees very well. It is the responsibility of the employer to do this not the consumer/customer/client.
Tipping has recently come to the Netherlands too. First place i noticed it was Dominos. i hey can fuck right off with that shit.
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I don’t see how taking it out on the staff is going to make anything better.
It’s not. People who make this argument want to be stingy and stiff the person serving them, and hide it behind an argument about principles.
$1 tip per drink for the courtesy of a worker starting their work day before i get out of bed.
The company should, but they don’t.
Again, if you are concerned about money, you can get cheap coffee at home. If you want someone to make it for you, you should understand the actual cost in US capitalistic society.
Until the company pays a living wage, buying coffee without tipping is agreeing that the business paying less than a living wage is acceptable.
If you don’t want to tip, don’t go there.
You can’t expect that of people.
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