• schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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    5 hours ago

    All VPNs do is change who has your browsing data: your ISP or the VPN operator. You may or may not trust either of them not to keep records, in either case you have no way of verifying this.

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      ISPs definitely keep records. At least some VPNs claim that they don’t, and that their networks are set up in such a way that they can’t. Some organizations claim to validate the claims of the VPNs, but it’s unclear if they’re trustworthy.

      So your choice is to use something that definitely keeps logs, or to use a company that at least says that they don’t/can’t.

      • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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        44 minutes ago

        The VPN company themselves may not keep logs. However, they might be a little black box somewhere in the data center…

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        3 hours ago

        Yes, and there’s also the fact that some VPNs such as Mullvad let you be anonymous so even if Mullvad were keeping logs, if you pay privately they have no way of knowing whose logs they are (unless the content itself of your internet history reveals your identity). Meanwhile your ISP definitely knows who you are, and absolutely will collaborate with the police if asked to.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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        3 hours ago

        I mean, you could set up your own VPN on a VPS and ensure it doesn’t keep logs. You could also get a VPS in a different legal jurisdiction from where you’re at.