I don’t go on social media so I don’t really get it but I have seen memes here and there of women getting mauled by bears presented in a “heh, serves her right” kind of way.
So weird that dudes complain that they can’t get women when the message they put out there is they hate women and make images of them being brutally mauled. 
EDIT: I did not expect to see people I trust minimise SA here. I’m disappointed, that’s something I expect from a random chud blowing in from another instance, not you guys. Most of you were extremely cool in your answers, but to the one or two that weren’t. Do fucking better.
i solely know of this from a vaush fan in my vague social circle talking about it and me having no clue what they were talking about so i went to r/vaushv and searched up bear to try and get what they meant bcs it was so obviously just some dumb shit they’d gotten from there and there’s like half a dozen threads of “”“progressive”“” men going full
ranting about leftist misandry and comparing being afraid of sexual harrasment to systemic racism against black men.
here’s the start of the current thread they’ve got going:
vaush fan
not some chud
I’m a guy and I’d prefer the bear, and think everyone should choose the bear.
I’ve seen several bears back when I lived in China, they’re docile as fuck. I don’t think they’d ever attack a person since, y’know, they’re herbivores. They just sit around eating bamboo all day. It’d be like asking “Oh would you rather encounter a man in the forest or a wombat?”
I think you’re joking here, but pandas are absolutely not safe animals to be around. They can get very territorial and WILL fuck you up. Beautiful, yes. Safe? Absolutely not.
Source? Growing up in China we were taught they were afraid of humans and flee if they catch our scent, which is why footage of wild pandas was near impossible to get. Males get aggressive around a short breeding season but even then they have never killed a human in recorded history.
i honestly dont know how men are getting so mad about the bear thing tbh. like how is your first thought when confronted with women expressing how unsafe rape culture makes them feel ‘but what about men’s feelings though’?/??
Joe definitively crushed MeToo four years ago and I don’t recall much discussion of rape culture since then. That almost certainly has something to do with this. It would have been a fairly normal part of discource in 2018 or 2019. But Joe had to be crowned, so MeToo had to go, and now we’ve got Weinstein skipping out of prison. So there’s been four years of relative media silence about rape culture and patriachy and we’ve circled back to “not all men” bullshit.
black bears are just giant raccoons, they arent gonna bother you, and its fun to see them. grizzlies are generally avoidant of people, but i would be nervous of one. i literally do not ever want to see a polar bear near me in the wild, their whole thing is eating other large mammals. no thanks!
men make me nervous as fuck. black bears are chill
Idk how the choice is even controversial. Rather meet a bear in the woods than a man any day.
Any man who chooses to be out in the woods when video games exist is clearly mentally unwell and dangerous.
Bears simply don’t have access to video games.
Oh, and bears tend to not have guns, and are easier to outsmart or evade. That stuff too, but mostly never trust an “outdoorsy type”.
I’m out in the woods playing ssbu with the bears
…See, now I need deets; are they nice on the sticks?
I’d just like to add that as a regular ol’ cis dude, I’d much rather encounter a black bear than a random guy in the woods. I know how to deal with a black bear 99% of the time, I know how to deal with the random guy 85% of the time. I’m not particularly afraid of either scenario but I’d definitely take the bear.
Make it a grizzly bear and idk, I’ve never been anywhere that has wild grizzlies so I don’t know the proper protocol for dealing with them. Also in the 1% of cases where I can’t defuse the situation I think a grizzly just wins that fight. I feel like I can make a black bear give up on killing me.
I still think I’d rather take the grizzly bear that inexplicably hates me than the random guy that inexplicably hates me though. At least the grizzly will tell me how it really feels in very unambiguous terms.
I’ve never been anywhere that has wild grizzlies so I don’t know the proper protocol for dealing with them
Play dead until you aren’t playing anymore, basically
For a polar bear or mountain lion, however, by the time you see it, you’re already dead. It already knew you were there, and specifically decided that it wanted to be in your presence.
imo 60% of this discourse could be resolved if it was specified just what type of bear we’re talking about.
Black bear? Panda? Sun bear? basically big herbivores who are no more threatening than a cow or a large sheep. Black bear might try some bullshit but they weigh about as much as a heavier human anyway, very unlikely to hurt you
Grizzly? Polar bear? yeah you’re dead
Gay bear.
Gay bear just wants to give you a big hug
American tourists went for a walk in the Russian forest. As luck would have it, they encountered a bear. Screaming, panic, they run away. The bear is behind them.
Nearby, in a clearing, a group of Russians is feasting. A blanket, vodka, a snack, bottles are cooling in the stream. Full culture, they don’t bother anyone.
Suddenly, a screaming mob bursts into the clearing and runs through the middle of the picnic. Blanket trampled on, vodka spilled - big deal! So the Russians chase the intruders and beat the crap out of everyone.
Already a little calmed down, they return to the place of the event. One remarks in passing: “The one in the fur coat fought quite well”We also don’t know what type of man we’re talking about. Or the distance you encounter them, or whether you’re lost in the woods or on a trail. There’s a lot of ambiguity in the question in general.
Which is the point. Respect to the fellow autistics in this community, but the point is not whether you could fight off a bear, the point is that the motivations of men can lead to far worse than solely animal instincts
Make it a “Alone with an African man or a bear” and these men will agree with the women instantly lmao.
edit: most of these men would prolly be against transwomen going into women bathrooms
This actually highlights my issue with it. Both this and racism feel the same to me. Even though I aknowledge that they clearly aren’t.
End of the day I’m still being judged for something i didn’t do and wouldn’t ever do. And that sucks.
But seriously fuck my feelings, do what you have to to stay safe
Can I add to this the “tell your male friends not to r*pe” bit too?
If I tell a rpist not to be a rpist, I doubt they’ll have an epiphany and change their ways. And telling someone that wouldn’t do it in the first place is obviously not gonna help against r*pists.
I don’t get it.
Well yeah, but you can curtail someone’s behaviour. I knew a guy who was creepy towards lots of my friends. I confronted him in a ‘bro’ way - like ‘hey man I know you’re not trying to be weird but I’ve heard a lot of people complain about the way you’re treating people.’ He was taken back, absolutely squirming in his skin. At first he denied it, so I doubled down that I don’t think they’d have lied to me and what they’d said does sound bad. He cracked under the pressure and started apologising - I was like ‘hey don’t apologise to me - apologise to them if you want.’
I don’t know if he truly apologised, but I do know that those friends never endured his creepiness ever again. After a while he stopped hanging out in our circles completely.
Perhaps it made him introspect about that moment. Perhaps he just went somewhere else to carry on creeping. But if there’s a person with convictions like me ‘somewhere else’, then ‘somewhere else’ will not be welcoming to him either. And if everyone could do their part in combatting it, he will struggle to find a place to be a creep.
The thing is, creeps creep far less if they know they’ll be caught. Sure, some psychopaths might just do it anyway, but most of the time they work within what they know they can get away with. And the sexist undercurrents in society are what allow them to get away with it.
It’s not 'hey guys, guys, before we go out tonight can we all just agree ‘No raping!’. It’s identifying times when your probably drunk friend is being overbearing towards a girl and telling him to cut it out. If your friend is talking about women as if they’re pieces of meat, he’s dehumanising them, and when people are dehumanised they’re more likely to be harassed/attacked and so on. That’s the part you cut out.
