The lemmings are a squeaky bunch.
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Fr. I’d say a comment I leave on reddit has like a 3% chance of meaningful response that might turn into even a brief meaningful interaction.
I think that conversion rate is vastly higher on Lemmy, much closer to like 30-40%.
That’s a difference so profound so as to be nearly incomparable.
So do I wish Lemmy was a bit more active so the front page was always fresh? Sure. Is it a very small price that I am enormously willing to pay for the significantly better experience here? Yeah, abso-fucking-lutely.
I feel like I’m even starting to recognize user names throughout the platform
Ohh yes… But it also shows how small Lemmy still I.
Yup. A certain flying squid comes to mind.
There have been so many times I’m in a conversation , and then boom realize it’s FlyingSquid
They are my homie at this point
Yeah, but smaller communities mean it’s harder to keep distance from certain users, FlyingSquid being one of those that I’d rather not interact with.
…you could just block them if you feel that way?
Don’t block posts and comments that you find in threads for as I know. At least I can still see them…
I decided to stop starting fights here and exclusively drop my payloads of spite upon the denizens of Facebook groups and getting right in rightwinger’s faces.
As such, I now don’t have much of a use for Lemmy other than news and flicking the occasional Russian apologist off of the bottom of a string of comments like a dangling turd.
We are growing somewhat of our own, genuine piracy group here, though, which is rather impressive. I wouldn’t be surprised if practical groups like /r/selfhosted moved over here just for ease of use.
Actually there is !selfhosted@lemmy.world which is an active community.
Active yeah, but I wonder how close we can get to the reddit side just being a referral here.
It’s not enough that Lemmy succeeds.
Reddit must burn.
Im not sure if i want all The toxic assholes from Reddit coming to Lemmy.
It feels much more human on Lemmy. Reddit was mostly bots and training models. Do we have any statistics for Lemmy on percentage of bot users posting to the platform, who pretend to be human?
Sometimes I miss chatting with the bots on Reddit. The platform always kept you emotional and scrolling. All the gore, violence and other sensationalistic content. All the arguments arguments arguments always against you. It was a plastic experience.
Reddit gets a lot more votes and comments… but I think the number of people actually talking to each other is about the same. Most the comments are just noise.
My last year of Reddit (prior to the API purge) was very much filled with low effort comments. You get a lot of votes and comments but the votes don’t matter and the comments are largely empty one-liners. I doubt it’s gotten better since I left.
I’d say even the assholes on Lemmy put more effort into the comments than Redditors do. Except tankies who just love to flood the comments with their copy paste list of sources for “everything”.
I would deny that. From my experience you’re having much more conversations on Lemmy. If I posted a meme on Reddit I regularly got like 200 Upvotes and 0 comments. On Lemmy I usually get around 100 Upvotes and around 15 comments or so. This is a comparison between the same community on Reddit/Lemmy.
I think you are mostly right, but sometimes I am missing the high quality answers here. You know, the ones where someone really puts in thought or seems to be an expert. Or maybe I haven’t found the right communities yet.
!bestoflemmy@lemmy.world tries to compile those
Thank you for linking this. I’m always looking for something interesting on here to scroll through on my lunch break.
Lemmy is my doom scroll and I feel like its much healthier. Took my time to build a decent plock list and functionally I get 2 long lists of stuff per day. If you want more, get people talkin or get back to work. Reddit on the otherhand will go on forever. Plus the lack of global updoots score makes all the conversations have actual opinions instead of chasing imaginary internet points.
The fediverse doesn’t need perpetual growth. That’s VC investor bullshit. You don’t need to be posting on a platform where the whole world is present. Again more corporate bullshit. As is the “digital town square” thing. It sounds profound but it’s pompous.
What made the internet so good was variety. Which is what reddit seemed to offer in a time when the older paradigms namely message boards were becoming antiquated.
What we got with the oligopoly of social platforms is watered down to memes and politics. It’s right wing cultural imperialism quite frankly. People have been battered into fear of being who they are online because in this age of centralized internet has made it a war to remove anything unacceptable (aka “woke”). There’s no variety. There’s nobody being themselves.
The fedeverse will have arrived if it manages to achieve distinct varieties. On a technical basis it’s perfectly positioned to achieve this. Right now it’s largely just reddit clones offering little more than an extension of the cultural/political wars embroiling the handful of centralized social media platforms.
The fediverse doesn’t need perpetual growth. That’s VC investor bullshit.
I reckon this is key. So many people seem to take the view that since such-and-such site is very small compared to Facebook or Twitter or whatever, then it must be failing; As if maximising the number of users is the ultimate goal.
Maximising users might be the goal for investors, so that they can monetise and maximise profits. But for people actually using the service, it’s totally beside the point. We don’t need to be in conversation with 100,000,000 people at once. More people doesn’t always make it better. In many cases it actually makes it worse.
The only thing I miss about the sprawl of reddit is the activity in niche subreddits. Hopefully, the variety implicit to the fediverse enables us to toe the line between VC expansionism and rich communities for obscure interests.
I kind of feel like Reddit is the biggest bar in the world and having a conversation there feels like it. If you aren’t loud and early, you can’t really participate in a meaningful way. The smaller crowd of Lemmy is a sweet spot for me. Enough people that it’s not dead, but small enough that I can still participate in conversations.
Agreed. On Reddit, if you weren’t there in the first hour of a rising post, your comment won’t be seen by many.
I love that Lemmy posts have a longer “shelf life,” so to speak. I can see something posted days ago and still find fresh comments, which in turn encourages me to add something if it feels relevant. If I had scrolled a two day old post on Reddit, any comment I add would be rarely seen, or at most responded to with “Why are you commenting on a dead post?”
Also, on Reddit I felt dread seeing that there was something in my inbox. On Lemmy, I’m excited to see what someone wrote. Just a very different experience overall.
you are neat =) take that!
Get blooped, hope you have a wonderful day
Well well well, look what you have waiting for you. A nice blip of free dopamine. You’re welcome and have a lovely evening.
I hope you have a wonderful day my friend ❤️
Fuck you, I can’t believe you would even write something like that, much less put it on the internet. Dumb fuck
Pretty much…
Especially when you comment anything remotely social or political. The mouth breathers clamor to project their personal war on the nearest comment that vaguely resembles some words they can latch on to.
!^(Jk I hope that didn’t make you feel some type of way, ily)!<
Agreed, and it’s kinda neat to start recognizing people’s names across different communities. Really feels like old-school internet forums in that way.
Yeah, the Picard maneuver once replied to me and I honestly felt a little star struck.
I love the modern retro internet vibe.
Humans work better on the tribe model. Having diverse communities and even fractured topics covered by multiple communities on different instances promotes this model.
It feels like a properly social media that isn’t trying to exploit me, and I think that’s something special.
It’s small enough to recognize names. Big enough where running into a furry with an unreasonably flashy emojis in their name, or someone from some place you never
herdhad the knowledge of its presence forcefully injected into your brain through an unspecified method of perception is common place.Edit: Typo.
I dont know how ya herd a place, but ive played enough paradox games to have heard of a lot of places.
Fixed and improved.
You can always be heard on Reddit. Reply to the top level comment with a sex related joke or the popular meme trend and upvotes will roll I’m fast. You could also make a post that allows others to be judgemental, like relationship advice or am I the asshole; and again you’ll get lots of attention. Or pretend to be a girl and comment of weed and sexuality. There are lots of ways to get attention.
All of those ways get you attention, yes, but they’re all vapid dopamine hits. Which is probably a positive for the right person I suppose.
If you want meaningful engagement you will never find it in the larger subs, only in the super niche interest subs. We don’t really have many niche anything here on Lemmy save for a few vocal minority communities but the great thing is the engagement with the larger community is a real draw for a lot of us.
they’re all vapid
Yup. That’s what I mean to say.
Yep, better quality engagement all around. I still visit reddit for some niche communities that aren’t represented here but I always come back and I’m spend an increasing amount of time here. People are smarter and nicer in these parts.
Same, though I primarily just lurk on Reddit, I got tired of the hive mentality and the bots. Lemmy has grown quite a bit since I joined, which makes me come back for more
I have had good conversations about fastener heads (screw driver bits) and getting rid of timezones recently, my people
I learned Torx is the best for specialized instances and Phillips head is why I hate screwing things sometimes.
Did I have that conversation with you?
If not, there are dozens of us against timezones!
Lol maybe! Either way, convince your friends and family and it will spread!
It’s a common topic that comes up around DST/ends. And whenever people complain about early or late meetings at work.
I didn’t expect to like square heads as much as I’ve enjoyed using them. But coming from Philips it’s hard for something not to be an improvement
Feel ya there!
Me hanging out on !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
196 is great
How come it’s on my block list then?
what are you trying to say?
Turns out mindlessly scrolling through 10 000 comments isn’t actually a great experience.
I’ll take a meaningful comment from one human being over 10,000 bots any day.
True, but reddit is better for niche interests. For example, we don’t seem to have any serious philosophy or history communities here. (I am happy to be wrong here, someone please let me know.) On the other hand, r/askphilosophy and r/askhistorians regularly get interesting questions answered by actual professionals.
It’s still better for everything honestly.
Yeah! I have almost no need for Reddit. I probably logon to it just a few times a year. Usually it is when I am trying to troubleshoot something and there is a reddit thread for it.
Reddit would be scared of Lemmy gaining more traction.
I really don’t mind when Lemmy isn’t mentioned in the news when the topic of users bailing on Reddit/twitter/etc comes up.
Flys under the radar and keeps Lemmy small and nonthreatening to big platforms. We’ve certainly learned that growing to Reddits size means a breakdown in quality and who the hell wants to attract the kind of users that ruined Reddit?
!casualconversation@lemm.ee for people looking for a chat
I mean, yeah but everything on here is mostly political chatter, the niche comms are not that busy.
Exactly. The niche communities is where Reddit has excelled for over a decade. The front page has always been a grim place to be.
I really don’t like the gaslighting regarding Lemmy success. I like Lemmy, but let’s not pretend it’s a viable alternative for these use cases. Even popular communities for sports like football are utterly dead on Lemmy.
Yeah and i really like lemmy, but it’s getting overwhelming because i feel like it’s turning into a echo chamber for these political views, and someone who is not in line with these views is called names or is shunned.
The niche comms are more like blogs. Usually 1-2 people keep them alive, and sometimes there is discussion in the comments.
