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    Wild to be polling people on if they want to be conquered and pillaged by hostile foreign government.

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    did they need to have a poll for this? it seems crazy to me. can we just have a poll and then dissolve into another country?

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    Someone i know is adamant that only an official referendum can show that greenland doesn’t want to join the us because all media is fake news.

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      I am sure this person then also takes the reasonable position of beliving that only an official referendum can show that Greenland does want to join the us because all media is fake news, …right?

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      According to Google translate

      Six percent of Greenlanders want Greenland to become part of the United States, while nine percent are undecided on the question.

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          It’s pretty much in line with the “Lizardman Constant,” named after a poll that 4% of Americans think the world is run by lizard people. You can ask anything in a poll and you’ll pretty much always get around 4% trolling or whatever.

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      Not Greenland, but the CBC did find a guy that wanted Canada to be part of the US. That dude’s entire motivation in life was money and didn’t seem to have any thoughts on any other subject.

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    Greenlanders are at least 30% smarter than my fellow Americans. Congratulations and I hope to see you all in August (for a previously planned vacation, not a hostile takeover lol)

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      Only with guerrilla tactics against the US army, like Vietnam or the Taliban. They would still be occupied. No army in the world can stop a US offensive. They invested a lot in order to make it so. Fighting the US on a conventional war style is suicide.

      The real pain to the US would come in the form of trade sanctions and loss of military allies in the EU and elsewhere in the democratic world. It would take a few years, because the EU and the US are pretty interconnected. Nato would probably be dead in the water.

      After that it’s speculation that US enemies would seize the opportunity of their isolation. The lack of trade would severely impact revenues and Americans would be in for the wildest depression of US history, with a likely forecast of IRA style civil war between Democrats and Republicans. If Greenlanders kept at it, they would eventually take the region back.

      The US isn’t a dictatorship, it’s a democracy. Democracies don’t usually fare well on offensive land grab wars for very long. So the US would either let go of Greenland with a new, sane president or become a dictatorship eventually. Lots of ifs in this scenario but taking Greenland would cause a lot of hurt for the US undoubtedly.

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        The US isn’t a dictatorship

        i mean, eeeeeeeeeeh… its technically an oligarchy. which i wouldnt call a democracy at all.

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      They are part of Denmark and they could think about joining the EU.

      I’m not quite sure if they are as a part of Denmark protected by the EU defense clause, but NATO article 5 should work for them.

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          Yes and per article 5 the US would have to act as if they attacked themselves. Since this is quite silly, an attack of the US against Greenland would most probably either lead to the US having to leave NATO (I don’t know, if there is a way to expel a country from NATO) or NATO dissolving completely.

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            I don’t think they plan on following the rules for this one though. Dissolving NATO aligns with Trumps interests so I can see that happening.

            Although they would probably find a diplomatic way of taking control of their minerals, similar to what they just did in Panama.

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        What happens according to article 5 if a NATO member attacks another NATO member?

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          Article 5

          “The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

          Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.”

          https://www.nato.int/cps/ie/natohq/topics_110496.htm

          Guess the US had to provide help against themselves in that case. Probably either the alliance as a whole would dissolve or the US would have to leave it.

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    The Danish minister of foreign affairs thought it was really important that Trump said in his idiotic speech that he recognised the self-determination of the Greenlanders: ‘(Trump) said (they) respect the right to Greenlandic self-determination, and that I think was the most important part of that speech, …’

    Like anything that Trump says matters (besides, if it did matter, being the bare minimum anyway).

    The butt-licking is quite offensive.

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      I’m not sure, that this is buttlucking, but much more of showing publicly what the people actually want, because Trump would describe his possible invasion as liberation of those poor people - put maybe he still will do that, as there are seemingly 6% idiots