• jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
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    I mean, I’m not a theologist or anything, but based on other precedents, if someone was dying and wanted to be baptized at the last second, and no source of water could be arranged on time, the Gatorade baptism would probably be accepted by the Catholic church.

    Transubstantiation of Gatorade into Holy Water doesn’t even sound that outrageous when priests claim to transubstantiate wine to blood on a daily basis.

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      This seems to mean that priests can theoretically make any liquid holy, thereby making holy Gatorade.

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        I just checked and it seems that unfortunately not. At least catholic Priests are only allowed to bless “true water”, which is usually understood to mean that nothing was purposely added to it (with the exception of certain salts for rituals like exorcism).

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          So is tap water okay, or only where it isn’t fluoridated? What about sea water ? Heavy water ? Rain water ?

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            It needs to be demineralized and deionized to be able to accept god and become holy. God is quite picky

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      Bartender: “Sorry, dude, you’ve had quite a few drinks, I have to cut you off, only water for you from now on.”

      Jesus: "Dammit… "

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    I mean, water has to be blessed by a priest first before it becomes holy. So, what if the only thing available is a bottle of Gatorade but you have a priest? Couldn’t he bless the Gatorade so that the person could be baptized?

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    As an actual, honest-to-God (Episcopal) priest myself, the idea of an “AI priest” is very troubling.

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        I’m also troubled by all the others. What gets me in this case, aside from the fact that it’s more “personal,” is that there’s a sacramental nature to the priesthood that feels almost mocked by the notion of a gimmick like this. Also, as others have pointed out, this is a continued slap in the face to women who’ve long struggled for ordination in the Roman Catholic Church only to see that their church would rather call an advanced algorithm a “priest” before it would do so for them.

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          I see. An AI priest is not facing any personal sacrifice for their position.

          I would also worry about either the validity or confidentially of it’s training set. AI confessions sound like a legal minefield.

          If the priest is just trained on the bible then there will be some very strange advice delivered.

          None of this will stop people trying to create them.

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      Yeah, you’d be better off with Father Ted or Father Dougal. Still, not as bad as Father Jack, though.

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      Random request but can I get your opinion on the last thread I commented in since your probably better trained to answer or critique

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    Sam and Dean using Holy Church flavoured Gatorade to defeat evil, then drinking the rest to recover their lost electrolytes…

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    For those who don’t know, “AI-powered priest” in this case means a 3d model run by AI, not even a real person. The pronoun here is “it” not “he”.

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          Getting in the habit of respecting all beings’ pronouns will make it easier for you to respect human beings’ pronouns.

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            An AI is not a person under any point of view. It is not entitled your respect/empathy/compassion any more than any other object is. I respect people’s pronouns but that thing is not people.

            Getting mad over someone calling it “it” because you are misgendering it, is the same as getting mad over someone saying Twitter instead of X because you are deadnaming it (which is ironic, considering who owns Twitter).

            Plus, humanizing an AI will make you feel less threatened by it, and feel less bad when it takes over some person’s job, so you should actively avoid it in respect of other actual humans.

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                Nah, we humans don’t need fake imitations of people to practice not being a jerk with each other, we can just choose to. It’s the kind of freedom and privilege that comes with “being actual sentient living beings”. Unlike these things that need to waste heaps of energy to imitate what we humans told them to.

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            I’ve had a trans friend for years, who for some reason chose “zim” and whatever goes with that as his personal pronouns. He knows I respect him as a human being, and he respects my attitude about not demanding individualized language from others. We get along very well and treat each other as equals, as it should be. When he had a recent mental health crisis my house was where he came for refuge, because he knew it was a safe place. I think walking the walk is more important than talking the talk.

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    You can literally do it with spit… And that’s not a hypothetical. You can do it with any fluid if necessary… How is this controversial?

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      Because not all dogma can be easily explained or defended so it is easier to hunt the messenger. Compare to evangelicals and how much they roar against some things in the old covenant as sins while still using cloth made of mixed materials, eat bacon or refuse to kill their kids if they are not respectful enough.