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    First I wanted to contradict and say that I like arch linux because it feels good… So yes: I see your point

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    Hmm, the Arch one seems to be incorrect. People who wear a buttplug won’t randomly announce that they’re wearing buttplug.

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    I feel like Ubuntu should be one of those squeaky hammer toys. Maybe I’m just biased,

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      I think you’re right. But, I’m trying to make my memes inclusive: I don’t bash ubuntu users for the same reasons I don’t beat people already on the ground and refrain from mocking the handicapped.

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        Well you bash us arch users but i get it we can take it! Lmao. Or maybe ubuntu users just can’t take a joke

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        But what makes ubuntu better as a first distro than mint or fedora? It installs snaps even when you specifically invoke apt, a new user who doesn’t understand the messages will press yes, see that it seemed to work and have issues later that can scare them away from linux.

        What I’m trying to say is that we should bash the people still recommending ubuntu.

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          Oh, I’m absolutely fine with bashing people recommending Ubuntu. Hand me the first stone!

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        Eh. Using Ubuntu is nothing like having a mental or physical handicap, or having fallen and gotten knocked down/pushed down.

        My issue with Ubuntu is that there’s better distros- even for newbs coming from windows for the first time. The sole argument for Ubuntu is the first reason not to use it. People are installing it because they want something different than windows, after all, and canonical makes the same critical error (IMO) that MS makes: it assumes their users are stupid.

        To be honest, I grew up in red hat; I remember trying Ubuntu when it first came out, being told how awesome it was. I found it to be infuriating and horrible. And it has always been so. To me, it’s popularity seems derived more from marketing than from merit.

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      No, Debian should definitely be the Swiss army knife, and Ubuntu should definitely be the playdoh Swiss army knife.

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    That’s a weird Debian logo on the Swiss Army Knife

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    The swiss army knife should not be Ubuntu lol. Ubuntu would be like the dollar store knockoff that falls apart with use.

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      Its pretty apt because while you can technically use it to do a variety of things its almost always outclassed in any particular use

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          But, good enough for just about anything most people need to do on a daily basis. For anything else there’s specialized tools.

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            You’re not going to win that argument on Lemmy about Ubuntu being a decent OS… Which it is ❤️

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              Just because it’s Lemmy, I’m gonna share my “shitty Ubuntu” story, which is less about Ubuntu being shitty and more about me being a noob.

              I had a 2004 MacBook that my grandmother gave me for college when she upgraded. I didn’t hate it, but this being my first experience with a laptop, when the bottom 2/3 of the screen started blinking in and out, I thought maybe it was a software problem, so with the help of an SD card and my buddy’s old CRT setup I downloaded Ubuntu onto a thumb drive. When I went back to my parents’ place I decided that that was the moment to install, because my dad was really into jailbreaking his iPhone at the time, so I thought it’d be cool if we did kinda similar things together. Unfortunately because I couldn’t see the bottom of the screen, I had no idea about the progress of the install, got impatient, and just decided to turn the thing off. This had the effect of deleting the partition tables, and it would have been like $200 to get a new hard drive. I would have paid it, but before I could, the guy I had helping me fix the thing moved away and took my lappy with him.

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              I’d love to agree but unfortunately with them pushing snaps I can’t. When I used snaps I found them to be extremely buggy and if I didn’t already know there were other distributions with other better package managers I would’ve straight up assumed it was a Linux problem and I’d just have gone back to windows. If there was no other Noob-friendly distro out there I could say “sure it’s an ok distro” but there are better alternatives that don’t do the same shitty decisions as canonical (like Linux Mint which is the one I recommend to every noob coming from windows or Pop_OS! for those who want something similiar to MacOS).

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                Every single time my work laptop starts acting up I peak under the hood and it’s snap trying to update and tanks my whole system.

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              Until the snap repo starts updating and crashes your whole system because snaps are so fucking terrible

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      I’d have gone with a spork. Not particularly good at anything it was built to do, but functional enough to get the job done, and pretty straight forward to use.

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        Any wet meal you would have previously used a fork a spork/splade works better. It is the apex of TV dinner eating implements after hands only. 😉

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      I don’t know why, but it really is. You’d be surprised to see how many servers in the wild run ubuntu and how many docker images are based on ubuntu.

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        Docker images should really be distroless most of the time. There’s way too much junk in the majority of Docker images when in most cases, you really just need your app and whatever dynamic libraries or runtimes it requires (if you can’t statically compile it). You don’t need an OS in there!

        Also there’d be way more servers running Debian compared to Ubuntu.

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          You often (if not most of the time) need some infrastructure in OCI containers (while we’re at it, let’s get rid of the misnomer Docker image). And that’s going to be some subset of a distribution hand-crafted for that purpose. Most of the time, that should be Alpine, because they provide the slimmest base image.

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            Most of the time, that should be Alpine, because they provide the slimmest base image.

            Distroless containers (e.g. https://github.com/GoogleContainerTools/distroless, Chiselled Ubuntu, etc) are often smaller than Alpine ones. Google’s smallest Debian-based one is around 2MB.

            I have a Dockerized C# app… I’m going to try .NET Native AOT (which was improved a lot in .NET 8, released today) to compile it into a self-contained binary, and see how well it works with a distroless base container.

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              I’m curious to hear how that works out. I’m a big fan of C#; not so much the Microsoft ecosystem. I’d say for maximum scalability you’d want languages which compile to small binaries. So, Go, Rust, C++, C, and theoretically some others. The approach with Java and C# to bundle the framework, JIT, etc, and then try to shave off as much as you can get away with feels kind of backwards. And I get the excitement of the Java folks when they manage to create a self-contained binary with GraalVM and co of 12mb. Like, that’s impressive, but had you developed the same thing with Go it would be .5mb. Curious to see how .NET fares in that comparison to Java.

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            Google’s distroless base images are based on Debian and are smaller than Alpine images.

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          Debian isn’t really an option if you want paid support. You really only have Red Hat, SUSE, and Canonical. Of course, there are a lot of Ubuntu servers out there.

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    Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masterbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men masterbating together at this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW.