Trump recently pledged to only be a dictator on "day one" of his hypothetical second term as president.
  • Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    1131·
    7 months ago

    They can never again argue they need their guns to overthrow an authoritarian government. It was a stupid argument to begin with but now they show they would cheer such a government on.

  • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
    1065·
    7 months ago

    Remember… Your conservative friends and family will politely wave as they watch you escorted away to be “re-educated”.

    Your conservative family, neighbors and co-workers do not value your life the way you value theirs. They are simply not capable of that. Empathy is not a conservative trait. It never has been.

    • PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com
      English
      734·
      7 months ago

      I have no fucking clue why you have so many upvotes. This is provably false.

      To the extent that a person’s conservative friend or family is a Trump supporter, then maybe you have a point. But Trump’s political support is as varied as Biden’s. That is, I don’t particularly like Biden, but I’ll vote for him again. Similarly, conservatives that reluctantly support Trump, of which there are many, shouldn’t be disparaged as lacking empathy in the same way gung-ho Trump supporters are.

  • HLMenckenFan@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
    681·
    7 months ago

    “Hero-worship is strongest where there is least regard for human freedom.” - Herbert Spencer

    • stochasticity@lemmy.world
      201·
      7 months ago

      Okay, this quote may be fine, but let’s not pretend Herbert Spencer wasn’t an advocate of a lot of bad ideas.

  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
    574·
    7 months ago

    We should pick one candidate to all vote for in the Republican primaries.

    There’s no Democratic primaries this year and we’re stuck with Biden. We don’t have to be stuck with Trump as his opponent. If someone else wins the Republican primary, Trump will run as a third party candidate and split the fascist vote.

    And it doesn’t matter which one. Any non-Trump nominee will drag down Trump and vice versa. I’d suggest whoever comes in second in Iowa, just because they’re the most likely to have any momentum at all.

    • Riccosuave@lemmy.world
      41·
      7 months ago

      I agree. I think every single non-Trumper in this country should vote for Chris Christie in the primary. He is the least dangerous candidate, it will piss off Trump the most if Christie is the nominee, and you can guarantee it will mean a third party run for Trump. Seems like a net win all around.

      • MagicShel@programming.dev
        26·
        7 months ago

        Can you imagine the pucker and about-face the Republican party would have to do if CC were the nominee?

        Edit: I’ll do it. It’s legal in Michigan and I’m an independent anyway, allowed to vote in either primary I choose. Why shouldn’t I vote to nominate the Republican that I think would be the best to lead the country from those options?

        • osarusan@kbin.social
          131·
          7 months ago

          Why shouldn’t I vote to nominate the Republican that I think would be the best to lead the country from those options?

          I mean… you absolutely should! Not even just to “sabotage” Trump. That’s just a good idea in general.

        • Riccosuave@lemmy.world
          12·
          7 months ago

          It would be truly glorious to watch all these ball-coddlers have to tuck tail and try to save their own asses from their knuckle-dragging constituents.

      • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
        221·
        7 months ago

        Honestly, it’s pretty fucked up that chris christie is the “sane” vote for “sane “ conservatives.

        Like he’s not exactly a paragon of integrity, or good governance.

    • YeahBuoy@lemmy.world
      121·
      7 months ago

      Some (many?) states have closed Republican primaries. In the states you can only participate if you are a registered republican.

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      7 months ago

      Or one of the losers from the primary could run as an independent and peel off just enough fascist votes…if any of them had a speck of real patriotism, they would do it.

      Maybe Liz Cheney should run…

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        7 months ago

        Maybe Liz Cheney should run…

        The only thing that may be standing between us and fascism may be the Cheney family political dynasty. What bleak times we inhabit.

        • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
          4·
          7 months ago

          I swear I will never again complain that things are too boring. If the world is boring from 2024 onwards I will consider that a significant blessing.

    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
      4·
      7 months ago

      It’s funny that more people don’t realize that’s what they should do. If you’re going to be lead by a person from party X, Y or Z, you should go and choose who that person will be for all parties (if you can) so that you at least tried to get the person you prefer no matter who gets elected.

    • Iwasondigg@lemmy.one
      4·
      7 months ago

      Yes!!! Been saying this for a long time. In a two party system, the power of we the people is in deciding which primary to vote in. If we defeat Trump in the primaries we defeat him period.

  • cogman@lemmy.world
    474·
    7 months ago

    I really worry about 2024. Between trump announcing “yup, we are gonna have a beer hall putsch” and Biden saying “Yeah, I’m a zionist and we need to 100% support israel”… It feels real bad man.

    I’m going to vote for biden, make no mistake (because he’s still a better president than trump ever could be)… but dude seems to be doing everything possible to lose progressive votes. I’m really worried that trump ends up being president because of the disillusion from Biden’s centrism and Israel support.

    • Drusas@kbin.social
      331·
      7 months ago

      It helps to remember that the US president will always support Israel. It doesn’t matter who is president. Unless we magically get someone like Bernie Sanders at some point, the US will always support Israel.

      • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
        17·
        7 months ago

        I think even Bernie would, but with a lot more criticality. Calling for a ceasefire, attaching conditions to aid, drawing red lines for US support.

        • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
          3·
          6 months ago

          I wouldn’t call that ironic, so much as a direct result of being descended from a Jewish family that lost people to The Holocaust. Pretty difficult for people to accuse him of being antisemitic, even with the “self hating Jew” stereotype. He’s literally the type of person who can say with authority, “you’re making your own people look bad, and we want nothing to do with this.”

          Edit: responded to the wrong comment, please ignore.

      • fluxion@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        7 months ago

        Ironic that the guy who actually lost close family in the holocaust is the one who doesn’t have his head up his ass about the Israeli government

        • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
          3·
          6 months ago

          I wouldn’t call that ironic, so much as a direct result of being descended from a Jewish family that lost people to The Holocaust. Pretty difficult for people to accuse him of being antisemitic, even with the “self hating Jew” stereotype. He’s literally the type of person who can say with authority, “you’re making your own people look bad, and we want nothing to do with this.”

        • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
          2·
          6 months ago

          Not ironic at all, to anyone who actually paid attention to history. Genocide is genocide, regardless of the perpetrator. When Israel said “never again” what they apparently meant was “never again to us”.

      • cogman@lemmy.world
        6·
        7 months ago

        I hope the Palestinians survive long enough to see a US president that doesn’t unconditionally support their genociders.

        But, totally agree, Trump would either be identical or worse than Biden in terms of Israel. I just worry that “both sides are the same” in this regard is something that will disillusion voters.

  • PugJesus@kbin.social
    401·
    7 months ago

    No, but you see, they’re just “economically anxious”, not literal fascists. /s

  • Pratai@lemmy.ca
    301·
    7 months ago

    Sheep often need to be led. Even if, no- especially when… it’s to the slaughterhouse.

      • PugJesus@kbin.social
        27·
        7 months ago

        Believe they’re making a joke. It’s an annual tradition for Very Important Liberal Journalists to do that in the run-up to every election year, where they write a puff piece and wax poetic about how they had waffles with some rural Republicans and they’re Really Just Sensible People because They Were Nice To Me.

        Obviously, this misses the fact that being nice to someone personally means jack fucking shit about what policy or politics you support. Plenty of fascists are polite to you face-to-face - that doesn’t mean they’re anything resembling good citizens.

        As a progressive who grew up in a very conservative area, I know this way too well. Plenty of people who are sweet and kind and polite to you, but will casually drop the N-bomb in conversation and talk about how ‘those people’ need to be ‘kicked out’ or how they wish they were at the border, where they’d ‘shoot all the illegals coming over, not even kidding’.

        • Zellith@kbin.social
          8·
          7 months ago

          Gordon Ramsay was in some documentary in the deep south and thought the people were nice until they started dropping N bombs. (Iirc) Racist are weird.

        • Bone@lemmy.world
          5·
          7 months ago

          Ahhh. Read as a joke, I see what you’re saying. Right over my head! Thanks also for that lengthy explanation! You’re a peach

        • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
          2·
          6 months ago

          What’s hilarious is when you get journalists who insist they’re leftist and socialist, but then say shit like “those guys tried to kidnap Gov Whitmer just because they were economically anxious” and “did you learn how we could get along with Nazis when you were embedded within them?”. Some people are more than happy to ignore racism and sexism for a political alliance with the far right.

  • YeetPics@mander.xyz
    8·
    6 months ago

    We need to make a list of these sycophants so when we are in the clean-up phase of this shit show we can guarantee these ideals won’t rise to the surface ever again. These sick fuckers are monsters, let them have the fate of monsters.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
    52·
    7 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    A video has circulated online Saturday showing supporters of former President Donald Trump cheering the idea of him acting like a “dictator” on day one if he’s reelected next year.

    During the event, Hannity pressed Trump to pledge that he would never “abuse power as retribution against anybody,” as had been suggested in recent reports.

    The comment comes in the wake of reporting from various outlets, including The New York Times, claiming that the former president and his allies are planning broad applications of presidential power should Trump win the 2024 election, including mass deportations, stocking federal agencies with loyalists, and using force to quash protests against him.

    These reports, along with the town hall comments, have renewed concerns about Trump’s potentially authoritarian aspirations and the dangers of reelecting him.

    On Saturday, the PatriotTakes account on X, the platform previously known as Twitter, shared a clip from outside a Trump rally in New Hampshire, in which a host asks several gathered supporters, “How many people here support Day One Dictator?”

    Trump is currently the favorite to win the 2024 GOP presidential nomination by a significant margin.

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