Slavery never left it just got rebranded.

The Thirteenth Amendment needs to be amended.

Per Wikipedia: The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. The amendment was passed by the Senate on April 8, 1864, by the House of Representatives on January 31, 1865, and ratified by the required 27 of the then 36 states on December 6, 1865, and proclaimed on December 18, 1865. It was the first of the three Reconstruction Amendments adopted following the American Civil War.

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    The US constitution expressly and explicitly allows slavery if it’s punishment for a crime. Read the 13th amendment if you don’t believe me.

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    There is a reason the US has 20% of the world’s prison population but only 5% of the actual world population. It is one of the many injustices thrust upon our society by the ruling class for their benefit.

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    Good time to look into splitting and sharing your Costco membership. Possibly remove you and your partner, and go half with someone else.

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    Between “freeing” the slaves, only to aggressively rebrand them as criminals (eg, guilty of (verb) while black), and the wage slavery many of these companies are happy to engage in, everything has been pretty well cooked for a while.

    If they brand you as a criminal and force you into a position of working as a slave, then your food, accommodations, and everything is provided for you. This is “classic” slavery where the slave owns nothing and the slaver provides everything, controlling what is, or isn’t allowed, provided, acceptable, etc.

    If they don’t (or can’t) brand you as a criminal, unless you’re from a rich family, you end up as a wage slave, where you make just enough to scrape by, often sharing accommodations with others to afford the landlord’s rent, never owning property of your own or building any level of wealth through property ownership… You don’t make enough to have a vehicle worth anything, nor anything else of any significant value. You’re “free” to choose your slaver, and they let you pick which landlord you pay homage to… The main difference here is that you get to “pick” your oppressors, and now instead of the slaver providing everything for you (food, clothing, accommodation), you have to figure that out for yourself.

    The difference is honestly quite small IMO. And when you look at it objectively, you find that a large majority of people are still in slavery in some form or another.

    Look around you and realize that “middle class” is pretty much no longer a thing. You’re either poor and a wage slave, very poor and/or criminal and a literal slave, or you have enough money to be “independently wealthy” being a landlord or one of the slavers.

    They’ve built a system that can only sustain most people at a level of poverty that affords then no ability to escape from that poverty, while the owners and shareholders, landlords, and bosses of the world, sit on their asses and collect the fruits of our labor.

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    https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2023/09/27/updated_race_data/

    graph showing the huge difference in per-capita imprisonments of black Americans vs white

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States

    this is the data that racists (like Kirk) use to justify white supremacy. But the wrongful conviction rate is proven to be nearly the same.

    https://eji.org/news/study-shows-race-is-substantial-factor-in-wrongful-convictions/

    The report, Race and Wrongful Convictions in the United States 2022, reviewed the cases of 3,200 innocent defendants exonerated in the U.S. since 1989 and found that Black Americans are seven times more likely than white Americans to be falsely convicted of serious crimes. This is true across all major crime categories except for white collar crime, the report said.

    We didn’t end slavery, just made it palatable to the masses by labeling it “punishment for a crime”. They just need people to feel superior to those being exploited. Claiming it’s because whites were superior stopped being effective for the majority, so they made it so it seems they do more crime instead.

    Additionally, there is more crime in predominantly black areas, but it’s not because “black people are more violent” or whatever the hell, it’s because racism has made it crazy difficult for black individuals that aren’t born rich to progress. They were only sold houses or given apartments in certain areas, forced into poverty by lack of given opportunity, and while (I hope) that’s less today, there has been a lasting effect on the general population. When you have to do crime to keep you and your family safe and fed, you do crime.

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      Any time somebody tries to tell me that racism isn’t really a thing anymore (yes, they do), I always ask:

      “Black people have six times the incarceration rate of white people. That can mean one of two things: there’s systemic racism, OR they are committing more crimes because it’s in their nature as a race. So, which is it?”

      They never want to answer. They have to keep the mask on. No matter how hard I press for an answer, they never give one and get pissed off. It’s very telling.

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        That can mean one of two things: there’s systemic racism, OR they are committing more crimes because it’s in their nature as a race. So, which is it?”

        The racists will answer “it’s the crimes”.

        Fucking Kirk died with this lie on his lips.

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      Racists never wish to discuss the nuance. When discussing culture, behavior, and intelligence of the black population, they never wish to discuss the myriad of variables that would cause any negative outcomes. It’s so complicated and does not come down to one race being superior. I will never understand racism.

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        When discussing culture

        Also racists have a shit taste in music, can you imagine the 20th century US music scene without black musicians? What the hell would americana have to point to proudly if it weren’t for the countless black artists that built entire new worlds here?

        Like… do they think we get Elvis without black culture??? hahahahaha white people in the US would still be playing fiddles on top of hay bales if weren’t for black people, not that there is anything wrong with that activity but like… just look at how little country music ever changes vomits in mouth a little.

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      This is a good picture of “polite” racism in the North, too. We won’t call them the N word, we’ll just have them taken away.

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        Yeah, makes me wonder who’s in the meat packing plants in WI; I’m sure the answer is more depressing than I thought.

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    I think all of the Fortune 500 companies have divisions that exploit prison labor.

    They also get tax breaks for hiring felons they can pay less and even get reoffended on a whim.

    The states get next to nothing either for this prison labor oftentimes, but if we looked at the deciders we would find kickbacks. Sweetheart property deals through proxies, sneaky kickbacks but nothing that could not be recognized as such.

    Prison contracts are a big graft source too. A truly captive market.

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    No no no. They’re just temporarily relieved of their bootstraps. Once out, they can again be free and rich. Now, you take a barbarian country like China, Iran, or (gasp) Russia, those countries are crazy. They’re the bad guys.

    We’re the good guys.

    See? Simple. Now let’s go check what’s on Netflix.

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    Slavery was never made fully illegal in the US. And if you vaguely define some crimes like “loitering” you can easily arrest people you disagree with.

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    Economics of Everyday Things : Prison Labor

    Barnes is one of around 800,000 incarcerated people with jobs in America’s prison system. They grow crops, repair roads, fight wildfires, and manufacture a surprising number of the products we encounter in daily life, from office furniture to reading glasses. It’s estimated that more than $11 billion worth of goods and services every year can be traced back to workers who are mostly paid pennies per hour for their labor, or even nothing at all.

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      The question to me is how could we fix it. I believe prison should be about herabilitation, but overall I’d say most of the population does not. Someone gets a DUI, robs a store, commits fraud, gets in a fight, beats their spouse, stabs someone, murders someone… whatever it is. People say they should be imprisoned, many say they should never be let out especially on multiple offenses. Most of the prisoners take the jobs because it is used as a “privilege.”. You have to have good behavior to be eligible, then you choose one if you want with benefits that slowly “work off” hours of their sentences. (If it’s available). Certain jobs pay more time off their sentences than others, and some will try to get into those jobs. Yet we will have people who scream that they shouldn’t be let out after 5 years because they “insert crime here”.

      IF leaving their imprisonment and performing tasks in the world around people with good behavior isn’t a step to proving they are re-integratable into society, what is? I would say they need a hell of a lot more therapy, access to actual healthcare, psychologists, and resources that allow for easy integration back into society so they can find gainful employment, cut ties with their past and land on two feet to be able to move forward without extreme struggles that bring them back in.

      Our country doesn’t vote for that, because those same things aren’t available for citizens on the street who didn’t commit crimes yet. And they think they are better and don’t deserve less opportunities than those who did something illegal.

      So I guess what I’m saying is the first step to reforming our prisons is reforming our healthcare system… And wage inequality… And fuck… It’s not going anywhere