I don’t think that’s right. At least most of the blame should go onto the party that refuses to govern, rigs elections against anyone who isn’t their chosen meat puppet, and whose leader is supporting literal genocide. You can throw some of that shame down on the little people, but you’re really wasting your time if that’s where you’re punching.
Wanting to change the system? Just vote blue isn’t how you do it (I don’t know how to do it, but voting blue obviously hasn’t worked). The incentives are so weak for the dems to change, that I really don’t even know how you can justify that second paragraph as reasonable. Voting doesn’t make change, paying lobbyists does.
My cope is that maybe some of these elites stop losing their jobs when they fail election after election and we get someone new in there. But then these are Democrats, they don’t learn ANYTHING ever, so that’s all it is. Cope.
Yeah, this is what people don’t get. This whole vote blue no matter who made way more sense in 2020.
But here in 2024 you can say with certainty, voting blue right now does not mean the US actually would fix anything during those 4 years.
I’m not American but it’s really weird to me that they had 4 years to persecute trump and now people are saying it’s up to voters… like voters gave you what you wanted and you wasted 4 years…
Sorry for bring up an old thread, but yeah… I’m super disappointed that trump hasn’t been convicted yet. I know the gears of justice turn slowly for a reason, but damn. Four years feels too slow. Sometimes it feels like the democratics intentionally shoot themselves in the foot to make it ‘fair’ fight. Or love tripping over their moral high ground.
Nothing stops you from raising and talking about issues AND trying to use your vote to stop the fascist from getting into power. The “protest vote” is less effective than the discourse.
It’s important to point out, however, that liberals have been feeding leftists the lie that voting for democrats will result in moving to the left. It doesn’t, it just furthers liberalism.
As such, Leftists need to touch grass and actually organize on the ground, via Unionization and activism, to meaningfully get change.
I don’t think that’s right. At least most of the blame should go onto the party that refuses to govern, rigs elections against anyone who isn’t their chosen meat puppet, and whose leader is supporting literal genocide. You can throw some of that shame down on the little people, but you’re really wasting your time if that’s where you’re punching.
Wanting to change the system? Just vote blue isn’t how you do it (I don’t know how to do it, but voting blue obviously hasn’t worked). The incentives are so weak for the dems to change, that I really don’t even know how you can justify that second paragraph as reasonable. Voting doesn’t make change, paying lobbyists does.
My cope is that maybe some of these elites stop losing their jobs when they fail election after election and we get someone new in there. But then these are Democrats, they don’t learn ANYTHING ever, so that’s all it is. Cope.
Yeah, this is what people don’t get. This whole vote blue no matter who made way more sense in 2020.
But here in 2024 you can say with certainty, voting blue right now does not mean the US actually would fix anything during those 4 years.
I’m not American but it’s really weird to me that they had 4 years to persecute trump and now people are saying it’s up to voters… like voters gave you what you wanted and you wasted 4 years…
Sorry for bring up an old thread, but yeah… I’m super disappointed that trump hasn’t been convicted yet. I know the gears of justice turn slowly for a reason, but damn. Four years feels too slow. Sometimes it feels like the democratics intentionally shoot themselves in the foot to make it ‘fair’ fight. Or love tripping over their moral high ground.
Nothing stops you from raising and talking about issues AND trying to use your vote to stop the fascist from getting into power. The “protest vote” is less effective than the discourse.
Yes.
It’s important to point out, however, that liberals have been feeding leftists the lie that voting for democrats will result in moving to the left. It doesn’t, it just furthers liberalism.
As such, Leftists need to touch grass and actually organize on the ground, via Unionization and activism, to meaningfully get change.