A civil ar in the us wouldn’t look like the last. There is no front lines, it would be more similar to Rawanda. One side has been nice enough to fly a flag to let us know where they are. Pay attention
The Jan. 6 rioters were small business owners…but there is only so much that they can do if they teamed up for civil war. They would team up with Billionaires to kick the balls in of blue collar workers. The war would destroy state/federal institutions that license workers like nurses and doctors.
Essentially this war is about the Karens fighting to run an HVAC business with unlicensed workers. Eventually the licensed workers would be divided between those that can stand up to the mean Karens of he world vs. those that can’t. Doctors, machinist, would eventually be paid by the state an o.k. wage, while HVAC and such would be run by gangsters. See Venezuela, Iran and old Chile.Adorable; I’m betting on one, as a god fearing Westerner. Southies talk big shit, but even their shooters are gravy seals. Coincidentally, did y’all know a majority of the Armed forces are recruited West of the Mississippi? Food for thought.
THE USA would not break apart like that. The red oblasts would suck Texas dry and the whole damn thing would end in a financial and economic calamity. The Blue States with their GDP would form a union and align it with Canada to create another “European Union.” A civil war would not worth a single American bone, just break it apart like the Czechs and Slovaks, peacefully.
Think of the exodus from the US to Canada. Most people in the USA, 99%, just want their ordinary life.
Unfortunately, I think they won in the long run
The south will rise again…to get their welfare checks?
Not sure who is winning in this scenario.
Russia in the 1990s, Haiti, Somali, large occasional power outages. Things go on… Cities are so large that they still somewhat go on functioning; education, hospitals, public transport, local shops. Because what is there to do otherwise? Small bands of armed bandits cause most of the problems, but that never last too long, killing each other. Small regions that break off suffer the most, as resources in those locations get scarce, they get overrun constantly with armed bandits. Small communities start to protect themselves, eventually successfully, and work to re-establish relations with the larger cities.
Most people that can. leave. Wars then go on based on funding from outside interests.I’m thinking that the Mormons in Utah would win. Isolated enough that what happens elsewhere won’t be too much of a bother.
Well 1 has most of the nukes, money, and food, as well as a really strong natural barrier. And 3 already beat 2 for reasons that remain relevant. So yeah. 1 and 3 ally to curbstomp 2.
1 is upwind, which matters a lot for Ukraine
lol how are you holding onto the nukes, money and food?
You guys can’t even fight back from the comfort of your fucking computer chairs. Get fucking real. The first sign of confrontation, everybody is just going to try to migrate out.
just keep drinking your lead water buddy…
Do you have any reason to think otherwise?
Well considering they know they have all those things they would be secure knowing they aren’t worse off compared to the south,
2 lost to 3 last time,
2’s states don’t actually provide the most soldiers, especially if 1 and 3 group up on you.
Texas has a decent likelihood of actually telling 2 to go Fuck themselves and doing it’s own thing as a 4th faction if it thinks it can become trading partners with 1 and 3 or just might free ball it like they’ve always go on about,
Florida would lose a lot of its appeal of being apart of the objectively worst section of this brake up and lose a lot of its power and would no longer be a playground for the rich, or worse, they just end up under they’re control.
either 1 or 3 could ask Canada for help (though they would likely want to keep the states broken up for a while.)
Your state leadership doesn’t take care of your inferstructure hence me telling you to go drink lead water,
most of 2s states actually lose money, not make it. you can see this in there tax to rebates ratios, which will take a hit.
Plus all the obvious fall out from braking apart and having the awful reputation no 2 has, people will likely not side with you diplomatically.
And these are just the obvious ones, I’m sure there are more I not thinking or know about.
Ignorance can be corrected, stupidity is forever it would seem
i wish the USA split like this, id even take it if 1 and 3 fused.
The southerners wouldn’t even survive a proper winter the north gets.
A lot of them won’t survive this summer.
On no anyway
I think you’re thinking of Europe lol
Honestly it would be really easy to burn the entire west to the ground, so much desert and dry forest. That’s what we did to the south.
[Insert Goofy I’ll fucking do it again meme]
Unfortunately 2 would win because they would have the backing of the entire fucking United States military with kegsbreath in control
They would view 1 and 3 as the traitors to the fascist Republic
Pretty hard to pay your army with welfare states. Also note CA has the most enlisted out of any state and would likely receive a lot of backing from Asian militaries.
Shit well that goes beyond civil war then If you’re including other countries now
I mean even in the previous US civil war, Confederate ships when built in Great Britain, France fought proxy battles for the south through commerce and diplomacy, Mexico transported supplies to the south for France. Russia sent Navy ships that were to engage if Britain or France sent ships. Like, other countries absolutely get involved in civil wars one way or another.
Fortunately, they don’t have the backing of the entire fucking United States military, as many tens of thousands in the military are from 1 and 3, and they will protect their families.
The dog catching the car…what do you do with something like NYC. Even if you win? Where do the new doctors graduate from? Nurses? Who certifies them? Same with electricians, carpenters, gasfitters, HVAC and plumbers? Those blue collar jobs would have their professional credentials destroyed, and be forced to compete with every general contractor… a race to the bottom. Sophisticated technology would stop operating after awhile, and with the loss of the supply chain and licenses/regulated manufacturing facilities nothing in the U.S.A. of substance would be built. Only those in the army would be paid. Essentially you’d get N. Korea, fascist Spain, Venezuela or an Iran, like country. Mass migration out.
That’s true. At that point honor to rank and superiors goes out the window
West Virginia exists because they didn’t want to be apart of that bullshit, though I suspect they’ve lost their way in the last couple of generations.
Last time I drove through WV, there were confederate flags on a lot of porches.
I remember when I got my CDL and started driving OTR. I got my license about 4 months before Covid locked everything down. Once the lockdowns started it was kind of surreal. Ontario was empty. NY, Pennsylvania, Maryland and Washington, the highways were so quiet.
And then I crossed into Virginia. It was like driving through a portal. Cars and trucks everywhere. It looked like it was Black Friday sales. NO ONE gave two flying fucks about the international reality.
It really solidified my opinion on how utterly stupid Americans as a population are.
I’d have stayed home but nobody was paying my bills for me during it.
I was going to say as much. WV flipped hard in 2000. But it’s simple to understand - WV has always been pretty socially conservative, but was Dem because of the unions. They flipped because the Dems decided to turn on the biggest union industries in the state. The coal miner’s union isn’t a good base for your power when you’re overtly talking about actively working to destroy the coal mining industry. To be clear about how much WV cares about coal, it’s the state rock and there’s a coal miner on the state seal. The libertarian bent of a lot of GOP doesn’t hurt either, Montani Semper Liberi and all.
Democrats didn’t “turn on” coal, they recognized that it was a collapsing industry doing immeasurable damage to the environment and it would inevitably be phased out. The union failed to account for the future and threw a tantrum about it rather than negotiate re-training or any kind of transition plan.
Not only that but the government offered retraining programs for people who lost/were going to lose their jobs due to a decline in coal. From the outside the “my pa was a coal miner, I’m a coal miner, and my son will be a coal miner” attitude made a lot of those programs not as effective as they should have been.
While unfortunate, it’s not like keeping coal is even remotely viable. So it was kinda inevitable.
3 because of Alaska and Hawaii
