and for every example of a country where christians are systematically persecuted, we can find examples of christians persecuting other religions.
No one is saying it doesn’t happen. But we are say it’s not nearly as common as christians make it seem. and even then, most cases, christians are being persecuted by other christians. It’s pretty wild.
The demographic of Christianity continues to shift from the Global North (Europe, North America) to the Global South (Africa, Asia, Latin America). Christianity in the Global South is growing both qualitatively and quantitatively at a phenomenal pace in comparison to Global North Christianity.
The most ignorant and rude question I have, which I just dont understand… Before europe went and colonized and raped the global south, they did not have christianty
It blows my mind how many have taken to heart the religion thrust apon them by european colonists who’s sole intention was to erase indigeious culture and voice, why do so many praise the european god?
Why would folks not cherish thier own and throw out religion of the whites colonizer?
here in north america, they “re-schooled” and ran conversion operations to destroy the native culture and assimilate them into the white norms. It was brutal, violent, ugly, and genocide.
Now anyone I meet from the global south, (specifically the caribean and south/central America) is deeply christian/catholic?
A religion forced apon the people of the land with violence and no choice?
I …dont understand the acceptence in severed histories from your own people.
edit: I feel like if anywhere christiainity should be persecuted is the places if was forced on native populations violently with no choice, IE, south americans countries and the caribean, yet again, everyone Ive met from those places follow the colonizers relgion.
I didnt think of that. Of course, Im more versed (albeit still ignorant to a lot) in what happened to the native peoples of my very north region, but
idk. Ive just, The peoples who were genocided here, what culture remains, it seems they really respected life and the earth for what it gave. I often wonder how the world would have looked without colonization and missionaries. I didnt think of them, the missionaries prior, so, thanks for informing me of that. Its still… another cultures religion, pushing thier religion on someone else. Like their the door knockers of history.
I guess I should listen to this again, this creator has done a few episodes in south and central america, and it has had me in tears.
Christianity reached the South via missionaries (not that kind) wayyy before the Odd Millennia ever started at all, and before colonization or bloodshed
Many missionaries that came to the South before colonization were extremely peaceful and some of them were even martyred
culture… religion, yeah sure, youre right, but they do go hand in hand.
And I guess your faith shouldnt depend on where one is born, but chrisanity’s goal has always been to “spread” thier religion whether the people want it or not.
For a long time (and arguably still today), what religion you follow is heavily dependent on where you are born.
Which is why I asked what exsisted before the missionaries came to the americas.
Ive come back, because Im still thinking about this. I rewatched that episode about the incas yesterday. I hope you can watch (listen to) it, like, if you are to inform, I am too. There are two parts, but to inform, please consider listening to this historical documantary on what happened to the Incas, and thier religions.
Huh… I’m an inhabitant of the so-called Global South, particularly, Brazil.
And what I see isn’t quite what you’re arguing, much to the contrary.
I see Christians infiltrated within the judiciary system using justices’s authority to seize a statue of Lucifer (it’s been more than a year since a temple of Quimbanda had their statue seized after pressure of Christians; meanwhile, the fucking “Cristo Redentor” and its replicas exist without a trouble across the country).
I see Christian “justices” trying to argue it was the mãe-de-santo (woman practitioner of Candomblé/Umbanda), morally attacked by an intolerant christian Uber driver upon trying to request a ride from a terreiro to a medical appointment, the “intolerant one”.
And I lost count of how many times I have faced religious intolerance disguised as “dad jokes” from neighbors and “DSM-5-based diagnosis” from probably Christian psychiatrists since I became a practitioner of a Left-hand Path centered on Lilith.
So, no, it’s not Christians who are being attacked by non-Christians, at least not in Brazil, one of the largest countries in the Global South. It’s Christians who have been attacking non-Christians; even worse, using the entire apparata of the state to do so.
Oh, what an amazing and great disdain coming from you! If this is what you really think despite my exhaustive and detailed recounting, full with sources, on how christianity persecutes the “pagan”, despite my recounting of me being personally persecuted by my “pagan” faith (thus meaning you have absolutely no respect towards the one to whom you’re replying your deadpanned dismissal, so this means I reserve the right to owe you no respect as reciprocal as interactions can get), guess what? You aren’t entitled to complain about a supposed “persecution of christianity”, for christianity, would you believe it?, “is one religion!” (among thousands). So cry us a river, fashy bootlicker of Yaodabaoth!
look up what the Global South means
The global south is not a geographic term…
and for every example of a country where christians are systematically persecuted, we can find examples of christians persecuting other religions.
No one is saying it doesn’t happen. But we are say it’s not nearly as common as christians make it seem. and even then, most cases, christians are being persecuted by other christians. It’s pretty wild.
https://lausanne.org/global-analysis/perspectives-from-global-south-christianity
Hmm. Such persecution, much complex.
Edit: Also, both South America and Africa make up for a good chunk of the global south so my comment wasn’t even that far off.
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hundreds of christians are being arrested in India due to anti-conversion laws
hundreds of christians are being shot in the middle east by both sides
It’s almost like you could’ve written that to begin with instead of being vague af
The most ignorant and rude question I have, which I just dont understand… Before europe went and colonized and raped the global south, they did not have christianty
It blows my mind how many have taken to heart the religion thrust apon them by european colonists who’s sole intention was to erase indigeious culture and voice, why do so many praise the european god? Why would folks not cherish thier own and throw out religion of the whites colonizer?
here in north america, they “re-schooled” and ran conversion operations to destroy the native culture and assimilate them into the white norms. It was brutal, violent, ugly, and genocide.
Now anyone I meet from the global south, (specifically the caribean and south/central America) is deeply christian/catholic? A religion forced apon the people of the land with violence and no choice?
I …dont understand the acceptence in severed histories from your own people.
edit: I feel like if anywhere christiainity should be persecuted is the places if was forced on native populations violently with no choice, IE, south americans countries and the caribean, yet again, everyone Ive met from those places follow the colonizers relgion.
They did, in fact, have Christianity
Multiple members of religious orders went to the South before colonization, and some of them even condemned colonization
Christianity existed way before colonization in the South
what was there before the missionaries though?
I didnt think of that. Of course, Im more versed (albeit still ignorant to a lot) in what happened to the native peoples of my very north region, but
idk. Ive just, The peoples who were genocided here, what culture remains, it seems they really respected life and the earth for what it gave. I often wonder how the world would have looked without colonization and missionaries. I didnt think of them, the missionaries prior, so, thanks for informing me of that. Its still… another cultures religion, pushing thier religion on someone else. Like their the door knockers of history.
I guess I should listen to this again, this creator has done a few episodes in south and central america, and it has had me in tears.
https://youtu.be/BRB9dJmZhVk
Fall of Civilizations Podcast, ep. 12, The Incas
Christianity reached the South via missionaries (not that kind) wayyy before the Odd Millennia ever started at all, and before colonization or bloodshed
Many missionaries that came to the South before colonization were extremely peaceful and some of them were even martyred
and “religion” is not “culture”
completely seperate things
your faith shouldnt depend on where you were born
culture… religion, yeah sure, youre right, but they do go hand in hand.
And I guess your faith shouldnt depend on where one is born, but chrisanity’s goal has always been to “spread” thier religion whether the people want it or not.
For a long time (and arguably still today), what religion you follow is heavily dependent on where you are born.
Which is why I asked what exsisted before the missionaries came to the americas.
yeah, our job is to inform people, not to force them at all
Ive come back, because Im still thinking about this. I rewatched that episode about the incas yesterday. I hope you can watch (listen to) it, like, if you are to inform, I am too. There are two parts, but to inform, please consider listening to this historical documantary on what happened to the Incas, and thier religions.
https://youtu.be/BRB9dJmZhVk
is it why the history of before the missionaries and colonizers is so cloudy?
because the colonizers did their best to erase it? And seem to be successful in such?
In history, they did force it.
Huh… I’m an inhabitant of the so-called Global South, particularly, Brazil.
And what I see isn’t quite what you’re arguing, much to the contrary.
I see Christians infiltrated within the judiciary system using justices’s authority to seize a statue of Lucifer (it’s been more than a year since a temple of Quimbanda had their statue seized after pressure of Christians; meanwhile, the fucking “Cristo Redentor” and its replicas exist without a trouble across the country).
I see Christian “justices” trying to argue it was the mãe-de-santo (woman practitioner of Candomblé/Umbanda), morally attacked by an intolerant christian Uber driver upon trying to request a ride from a terreiro to a medical appointment, the “intolerant one”.
I see Christian gang members prohibiting and even invading terreiros inside comunidades (“favelas”) and murdering those who aren’t Christians.
And I lost count of how many times I have faced religious intolerance disguised as “dad jokes” from neighbors and “DSM-5-based diagnosis” from probably Christian psychiatrists since I became a practitioner of a Left-hand Path centered on Lilith.
So, no, it’s not Christians who are being attacked by non-Christians, at least not in Brazil, one of the largest countries in the Global South. It’s Christians who have been attacking non-Christians; even worse, using the entire apparata of the state to do so.
!atheism@lemmy.world
that is one country
Oh, what an amazing and great disdain coming from you! If this is what you really think despite my exhaustive and detailed recounting, full with sources, on how christianity persecutes the “pagan”, despite my recounting of me being personally persecuted by my “pagan” faith (thus meaning you have absolutely no respect towards the one to whom you’re replying your deadpanned dismissal, so this means I reserve the right to owe you no respect as reciprocal as interactions can get), guess what? You aren’t entitled to complain about a supposed “persecution of christianity”, for christianity, would you believe it?, “is one religion!” (among thousands). So cry us a river, fashy bootlicker of Yaodabaoth!