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Does that include games like “Love and Deepspace” https://youtu.be/-BfagDqg8zU
I hate to break it to them but that’s not a reason people would stop fucking - it’s a consequence.
It could become a reason eventually
in a world where people are growing older by the minute, “eventually” is not an option
Here in the States, AI romance is one of the few AI services common shlubs will pay for. Most users only use their free token allotment. Otherwise it’s businesses that buy tokens and drive AI profits.
And US AI offerings are still plummeting into debt, so any service that makes money is welcome. So far, AI workforce replacement costs more than human workers (by far) and does a poorer job most of the time. Hence Doctorow’s notion of a reverse centaur, the human employee that checks the machine’s work (rather than the machine checking and augmenting human work).
Also here in the States we have a culture war. Manosphere men (Incels, MGTOW, seduction culture, alpha males, etc.) vote Republican, so influencers get infused with billionaire money. But women (even conservative women) find them insufferable. The battle of the sexes, like the war against trans folk, immigrants and libs serves to distract people away from class consciousness.
Zoomers are not having sex compared to prior generations at the same age, and an AI companion might be a serviceable substitute. They were already taking on waifus anyway.
The affordability crisis, poor job growth and poorer upward mobility also informs the lowest fertility rate in US history (below 1.6 which some think is critical). To be fair, US fertility has been below replacement for decades, and we made it up with immigration.
And it’s the ownership class most frightened by depopulation. Curiously they keep making policy decisions that are downright anti-natal.
It’s cause young Chinese men don’t fuck.
And you killed all the little girls decades ago.
A lot of those girls were hidden or otherwise, kept off the books from the Chinese government. Not actually that hard in the more rural areas. Not that that excuses the Chinese government’s polices, but the families of those girls weren’t all that depraved. Lot of of adult women suddenly started materializing out of nothing for college.
It’s been years, so citing my source is hard, but I’ll see what I can find.
…have analyzed statistics and found that a combination of late registration and unreported births explains a larger portion of the “missing girls” than previously reported in Chinese sex-ratio-at-birth statistics. Their findings are published this month in the journal China Quarterly.
The researchers believe local government officials informally worked with farmers and acknowledged that they couldn’t fully enforce the one-child policy. Instead they made tacit agreements in allowing families to have extra children in exchange for social stability in their communities. The cadres, or local governments, would then under-report “out of plan” births that ultimately influenced the national population statistics.
There was also abortions happening and infanticide probably trails behind that. Not great, but not as bad as is passed around. People probably aren’t having kids in China for the same reason they’re not having kids everywhere else. Despite what we hear, people in China are either too poor or too busy with work.
I did not. That’s never been proven.
Sorry man, still busy searching for a source from when I said the sky is blue and a CCP asked me to prove it. I have a lot to catch up on.
Iʻm no wizard of number words, but I think the declining birth rate there might have something to do with the decades of one-child policy that wound up favoring male children…
And the brutal abortions if the child being born was a girl
Are you a wizard of other words?
Eschatology is for end times stuff, scatology is poop stuff, there is definitely a word magic in there
It seems like one of the few upsides of the planet killing plagiarism machine is that it is bringing back forms of unnatural selection we could probably use before hitting full idiocracy.
Downloads an ai chat bot
That I cannot
Who the fuck romancing AI? I guess this is new low for humankind, don’t blame me if someday we got doomed because of it.
I hate to be the one to inform you but… legit hundreds of millions of people 😔
Lonely man here, I’d rather stay lonely my entire life than have my emotions held hostage simping for an LLM.
Held hostage? I don’t get how anyone can suspend their disbelief enough to not feel like a tool “romancing” a sophisticated text predictor.
Yeah, Same here honestly
There’s also the fun part where all your chats gets released in a court case or the AI company gets bought out by facebook and they immediately sell all your personal chat logs to advertisers
You’re not their target audience
Thank fuck I am not
Sigh… I guess male loneliness is real things now, the end of era happening so fast that i can imagine
“Male loneliness” aka “I’ve been raised to think that patriarchy works and that I deserve a bunch of shit without reason. Why is the world so mean to me?” Meanwhile, everyone is lonely because capitalists made it cost money to see people and no one’s got any of that.
i’ve been a feminist since i was 12. that didn’t stop other people from having prejudice about how i am “about to rape them” the moment i turn my face towards them
Now imagine how fucking lonely it is needing to devote mental effort to finding out which men aren’t rapists.
Dude, I’m 6’4", over weight, have AuDHD, and resting bitch face. Do you think I don’t have the same lived experience as you? I lived until I was in my mid 20s like the world perceived me as a monster. I’m telling you that it isn’t a male loneliness problem, it’s a loneliness problem and your ego can’t or won’t let you see past the parts of that that directly impact you.
Lonely man here. I’ve been raised to think that every man are pervert and women keep getting catcalled and harassed in the street. I’m so ashamed of myself that I just cannot approach a woman without thinking I will annoy her and will be rejected no matter what I try. So I just… don’t.
I understand people using LLM for romance. I don’t use it because of big corps. But If I had a fully local, fast, LLM, I think I would also use it.
To give a specific actionable practice, find a local public hobby meetup and go to it.
Joining a sea shanty sing-a-long at a local bar changed my life
That’s another example. People are just people. If you interact with them, you’ll be shocked to find that most of them have just as complicated relationship with the world as you do. You don’t need to be afraid that everyone views you as a monster because of your gender. They don’t. They won’t trust you initially cause we live in a time of low trust (most interactions you have are people trying to get one over on you, because of the anonymity of the interaction). All that it takes to get over that is more interactions with the same people. Then you’ll be more confident in other interactions with strangers going forward.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyBoyfriendIsAI/
… ok, so we got uh… the ‘BookTok’ crowd of bipolar/neurotic smut connoisseurs…
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyGirlfriendIsAI/
… and a mix of hopeless chuds and niceguy incels.
And probably also just a segment of full time hikikomori permagooners, of any sex/gender.
There ya go, that’s roughly who.
“hikikomori permagooners”
My curiosity is at war with my desire to remain optimistic about humanity
Sorry uh … in less ‘online speak’…
People who basically never leave their room/apartment and masturbate like it’s going out of style.
Hikikomori is basically the Japanese word for a person who literally never goes outside, never socializes in person … ‘gooning’ is now a verb for masturbating.
I mean, I guess I’d prefer my permagooners to be shut ins at least. Thanks for satisfying my curiosity!
The American term for this is “creepy shut in”
I’m American, and I said what I said, lol
More importantly, who the fuck is anthroporphizing AI?
Google search results AI answer: “Thinking…”
Google Gemini: “I am…”
Ah yes, those people are totally start going out and fucking as much as possible. It’s not like that is a symptom of a more general social issue that has been getting worse way before LLMs were popular. And it is also not that people will develop relationships with all sorts of inanimate objects and concepts to cope with reality. The problem was just the AI guys, yay pat yourself in the back
Just the same as many folks falling on hard time grab for booze and/or other substances to get to their day. People I general don’t become poor by doing drugs first. But that would mean admitting society has structural issues that are most likely very profitable to a small minority.
None of this shit in China
LLMs are horrible at a lot of things, but this is one area where they excel i’d guess. The things are trained on volumes upon volumes of spicy fanfic and roleplay chats posted for free online. They can probably cater to kinks that I don’t even know exist. Because the lonely aren’t seeking objective responses the hallucinations aren’t as obvious.
Not that it’s a good thing that they are okay at this though. I’d hate to find out a person got LLM induced psychosis from their fake AI gf.
They’re kinda garbage at any creative writing the same way they suck at humor; they’re either weirdly non-sequiturious or incredibly boring.
Porn doesn’t need to be very artistically advanced for people’s consumption.
Look, stepbro, I got stuck in the washing machine! Again!
LLMs have yet to enter the monetization process where the models get bogged down with ads for pepsi or whatever.
Chud: “I love you, robot who always agrees with me”
LLM: “I’m just holding my pepsi coke here and I’m so excited to say I love you too”
What does chud even mean anymore
Right wingers angry at culture war nonsense and make it their entire personality.
Doing the “right” thing for a very wrong reason is still wrong.
There are legitimate reasons to be skeptical, but the state has no right to your children.
States don’t have rights at all, rights are for people. But, the purpose of a state is to make society livable and sustainable. There is likely a benefit to society in mitigating the use of parasocial relationships with chat bots as a substitute for actual interpersonal relationships.
I think there is benefit to society in creating alternatives to parasocial relationships with chat bots.
Until then, I see this as somewhat analogous to fighting ADHD by banning Adderall. Yeah, the drugs aren’t good for you, but the lack of them is worse.
But on the other hand, crack is also not good for you. I think a society where crack is banned is probably better than one where it is abundant
And yet, cocaine is schedule 2 in the US, with legitimate medical uses primarily in pediatric emergency medicine.
Likewise, LLMs have legit uses, but people can get trapped by the sycophantic hallucination machine
And in an ideal world, kids don’t get head injuries and don’t get cocaine smeared on them. But we don’t live in that world.
Agreed but this is a shitpost?
A shitpost with a shit message might be a shit post
Don’t see a source on this bc shitpost but tbf I don’t think most people want kids in a world that’s actively burning down lmao
Also isn’t China’s youth unemployment rate something like 20%?
I’m sure it’s not great in other countries either but yeah think I remember reading about the “lay flat” movement (kind of like quiet quitting/job finding struggles in the US)
