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Lol, they completely over estimate how many people actually use AI I guess? I have used it like 3 or 4 times ever in 2 years. Im pretty sure I will be iust fine. I would much rather see RAM prices return to normal so everything else would be normal.
I used it intentionally right when chatgpt came out like twice. I thought it was a neat trick and show off of the advances im computer science and then never touched it again because its novelty ran its course.
However I do get the occassional annoying auto AI slop that google or whatever does which i actively then tell Ublock to block. I am so sick of this slop being shoved down our throats and into every stupid part of our lives. I wwas looking at appliances yesterday and saw AI powered fridges, fucking kill me.
I put it off for a while but once AI took over i switched to duckduckgo over google and removed the AI options. If I want to use AI ill find it, dont shove it down my throat…
I made some bad art using crayon ai like three years ago and never used anything ever again
It’s nice to have but I find myself using it less than I did ATM.
How often did you ATM?
A couple of times a week
What does he think people did 5 years ago?
Graduated high school
Lets ask Chatgpt
I would have to draw on 48 years of lived experience over 18 months of hallucinated garbage oh noes
I find the people who are worst at thinking use AI the most.
So, yeah. About that. A few weeks ago I was hiking with my wife. We saw another couple from out of town in the parking lot and chatted shortly and went our separate ways.
The trails here are somewhat interconnected and we ended up running back into them at a lookout. They recognised us and asked if we could ID some berries they ate.
I guess they asked ChatGPT what they were and it told then raspberries, so they ate them. They were in fact not raspberries. They were thimbleberries, which luckily are also edible, but still. They thought they tasted off, but chalked it up to just being wild vs store bought.
What an incredibly idiotic thing to do! Both of them thought it was okay to trust the lie machine with their lives! Darwin award candidates.
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The day they do the same with mushrooms will at least amuse the medical team (or the journalists).
That’s the whole point of AI. It does the ‘thinking’ for you.
And yet, the fields that require thinking the most are the ones that are getting the most use out of AI. Your average factory worker is not the one that uses AI, it’s the scientist, engineers and doctors.
Vaguely insulting to factory workers, first.
Second, much of the AI use is counter productive. Some of it is metrics chasing.
I did not mean to insult anyone.
If your AI use is counter productive, then it’s probably either because the scenario doesn’t benefit from AI or because you’re using it wrong.
There are PLENTY of cases where AI has made a world of difference productivity wise. Since it gained the ability to reason last year, there are just so many things it can do. Right now it’s better than every human at cyber security, period. Ask anyone who got to work with mythos.
Now I’ll agree that in the end cybersecurity is not a “productive” field since nobody cares when the cat doubled in size if the mouse did the same. However just last week we’ve seen something similar happen in Math, where it solved many math problems that no human or traditional computer has ever been able to solve. To say AI is “dumb” and “useless” after reading that paper feels a bit silly.
If your AI use is counter productive, then it’s probably either because the scenario doesn’t benefit from AI or because you’re using it wrong.
It’s harder to review code than to write it. Humans are kind of of lazy, and when we see code that looks generally correct we skim. We lose focus.
So if someone uses AI to generate a lot of code, it’s hard to review. If we just trust it, we lose knowledge of how our system works. If we spend the time reviewing it, that’s harder than just doing it ourselves. This is true at any scale, but the more you use it the worse it gets.
Maybe you consider using AI for code generation “using it wrong”. If so, please tell it to management at my job who are frothing at the mouth over the idea.
If you disagree that humans don’t notice problems, did you see the mistake I added in this post? Maybe you did! But most people wouldn’t.
Even if that wasn’t a problem, de-skilling is definitely a problem long term. If the AI did produce flawless code, after a few months of using it you’d start losing the ability to code yourself. Counter productive. Unless you’re management, and don’t care about your laborers.
I agree with what you’re saying in general, but most code out there doesn’t need to be high quality. There is no reason for anyone to design a web page manually in 2026 for example, AI will do it faster and cheaper than any human can dream of. And the code itself is incapable of causing issues, it’s just markdown/css. However even for high-quality code, if you look at benchmarks the top models produce higher quality code than the majority of devs.
As for losing understanding of our code, I agree but I suppose it’s the price to pay for productivity. Besides, it’s not like I understand Joe’s 30 years old ugly code any better than if AI had written it. At least AI has the decency to include comments.
How much web development experience do you personally have? Like, from before AI tooling?
Once your website is more complicated than a static marketing site, I don’t think AI is going to do it better. Some of the problems, like slopsquatting might be around for a long time. Possibly forever.
And the code itself is incapable of causing issues, it’s just markdown/css.
…what?
However even for high-quality code, if you look at benchmarks the top models produce higher quality code than the majority of devs.
Doing the wrong thing faster is not an improvement.
At least AI has the decency to include comments.
From what I’ve seen of AI comments, it’s not really helpful. It’s illusionionary confidence.
As for losing understanding of our code, I agree but I suppose it’s the price to pay for productivity.
That’s very expensive technical debt, or a massive de-skilling of labor.
Do you own a business? If you don’t, why would you dig your own grave here?
Honestly, I’ve only done web dev around 10 years ago and found it so mind-dumbing I left after a year. I have however had AI code a dashboard last year, roughly ~20k lines of mostly front-end and have yet to have heard of any issues from the ~30 people using daily. Why then would I have done this manually in a week when the AI did it better in an hour and $5?
Implying there’s some kind of contradiction here? Why would you need to out-source your “thinking” if your job doesn’t require “thinking”?
How is it not a contradiction? You say “people who are the worst at thinking” when it’s the people who are the best at thinking that use it the most, because they get to spend more time thinking by outsourcing the low-thinking tasks to AI.
It seems you might have different assumptions on who works which jobs. Factory workers span the whole range of people who are great at thinking and people who are bad at thinking. So do scientists/engineers/doctors. I don’t think I would agree that only those “who are worst at thinking use AI the most”, but if it were the case, then evidence that scientists/engineers/doctors are the people using the tool the most does not invalidate the claim. It could just means that those who are in those jobs and are bad at it are also the ones using AI.
I mean I work in a slaughterhouse pulling carcusses with a hook from the cooler out to get cut up. Not sure how losing AI would impact my job.
sounds like someone that never done meth. Meth might help you stop using AI.
I think it would stop you doing a lot of things
Not only do I not use a.i. in my job, I can’t even think of any way a.i. could be even a minor help.
You can automate sending emails that people won’t read.
you could automatically generate hundreds of millions of TrumpTroll robocalls from burner accounts offering credit up to $300,000 for businesses that don’t exist
I have no need to do that.
You could ask it how to do your job worse. In fact, asking the question is getting a headstart.
I already know how to do that. :)
I find myself only ever using AI for silly images to share with my partner and such anymore. It’s clearly not competent enough to be trusted the way average people have been relying on it. I switched to open weight local models and they honestly seem to work better than the large online models with proper prompting, and acting as a assisting tool rather than a creativity/skill replacer. Still have to double check everything it outputs if it is critical information.
That said, I wouldn’t be torn up in the slightest if it was gone right now.
I’ve done my job just fine the last 10 years because I RTFM.
Me being valued for my knowledge and experience again rather than expected to be a glorified babysitter to a child incapable of retaining anything meaningful?
Ya I could go back to that.
Dumbest question I’ve seen all day.
I’d be 100% fine, and I’m a fucking systems analyst, a job where you’d think AI might actually be helpful.
But honestly, nope it’s not. Even for basic data parsing and analysis, it takes more time for me to double check AIs work, understand what it’s doing, then correct its mistakes than it would for me to just do it right the first time.
Let me put it another way; a job that takes me two hours on my own would probably take at least 3 hours if I had AI do it, when I factor in the proofing and corrections, plus there’s the additional cost of the AI itself, so I have a hard time seeing how it will EVER be more cost efficient to use AI. Especially with ai prices keep going up, and its use raises overall energy prices for everyone.
It rarely saves time, and pretty much never saves money, so I’m kind of wondering what the point is, other than selling a pipe dream to dipshit boomer ceo’s that don’t understand basic math, but view employees as a wasted expense they want to get rid of
selling a pipe dream to dipshit boomer ceo’s that don’t understand basic math, but view employees as a wasted expense they want to get rid of
Seems to me that you totally understand what the point of “AI” is.
it’s been said that reverse-engineering takes three times as long as writing it on your own. Yet everyone prefers reverse-engineering stupid ai answers instead of thinking for themselves. Make it make sense
But honestly, nope it’s not. Even for basic data parsing and analysis, it takes more time for me to double check AIs work, understand what it’s doing, then correct its mistakes than it would for me to just do it right the first time.
Because you’re doing this. The majority of people bull shit their job and made mistakes with confidence long before AI existed. What kept companies functional were the people like you that actually kept stuff functioning. Finding others mistakes, actually verifying information, etc.
Do what works best for you. I know that I can’t bull shit jobs like a lot of other people. If I don’t understand something, or if I put little effort into something, I get fucking bored. And when I’m bored my ADHD literally will not let me work. I can’t even do the minimum and BS with AI or something. I literally can’t respond to an email.
I wish I could be like most people and do the bare minimum and be confident. But, I can’t.
It’s why I hate my field and have left it now. They forced AI on software developers. Which worked for the code monkeys. It made them really efficient and spitting out spaghetti code. But, the people that wanted to maintain code and stability. We were basically thrown out in a lot of companies. We were slowing down “development”. Some of them are still there and they are burned the fuck out trying to keep things afloat.
You’re not wrong. But you’re not the average person. The average person doesn’t care about understanding something. They just pick the “best guess” on a multiple choice test of life and are fine with it.
The AI gives them a better chance of picking the right answer. They move on. They don’t think about it again and don’t care if it was correct or in understanding it.
And the companies, they are profiting from a bubble. They give zero shits about the product they sell. The entire economy is running like Elon Musk promising “the next big thing” every year for 10 years without delivering. It’s all just financial speculation.
Selling an idea while they develop surveillance?
Since I haven’t used AI/LLMs for much at all, the answers are yes without question.
God that’s depressing if it’s real.
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