It’s time for Canadians to start referring to California’s governor as the President of California, and refer to California itself as the country of California. Even Californians are now doing that.
Congressman Eric Swalwell, a candidate for Governor of California, recently referred to California as “the greatest country in the world.” CalExit.Now concurs with the substance of that claim. CalExit.Now will continue to advance California sovereignty as the governing framework most capable of delivering outcomes that Californians consistently demand.
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SACRAMENTO, Calif., March 12, 2026 /PRNewswire/ – CalExit.Now, the movement advocating for California sovereignty, today released a statement marking a historic shift in statewide public opinion. A recent California poll reports that, for the first time since polling on this question began, a majority of Californians now either strongly support, or do not oppose, pursuing California sovereignty. The combined figure stands at 51 percent.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/calexit-now-announces-majority-support-100000068.html
Who knew Trump took Canadian Bacon (the movie) so seriously.
I’m in California, Canada - please annex us. We can draw up a map of the places you should leave behind. You know, the conservative ones.
The problem being we only have a slightly larger population, so it’d be pretty close to you annexing us. That’s not really the end of the world, TBH, but for many Canadians it would be a dealbreaker. Cutting off the rural bits would help, but not much since they’re rural (and, honestly, we could use some domestic produce growing, anyway).
It’s just one of the biggest states in one of the most populous countries.
Hey, California – wake up!!! You do not need to be part of Canada to survive. Your economy is already fifth in the entire world, of all other countries, in GDP. Far ahead of Canada. You would 100% survive and prosper. Once you stop sending you’re hard-earned tax dollars to Washington, but instead fund everything Washington funds with your own tax dollars, you are still billions of dollars ahead. By any measure, California is a lot better off as an independent country than as a US state.
You already have a credible National Guard air and land force that would for the basis of a defense force.
The referendum in 2028 can make or break your future.
SACRAMENTO, Calif., March 12, 2026 /PRNewswire/ – CalExit.Now, the movement advocating for California sovereignty, today released a statement marking a historic shift in statewide public opinion. A recent California poll reports that, for the first time since polling on this question began, a majority of Californians now either strongly support, or do not oppose, pursuing California sovereignty. The combined figure stands at 51 percent.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/calexit-now-announces-majority-support-100000068.html
Convince Oregon and Washington to come too, I want to be able to drive to my new vacation spot.
It’s one American in particular pushing it, so it’s a bit funny to use plural, but yes, he means it.
The president represents the country.
Yeah, there is that legal fiction, and typical way of looking at things, so it’s not an incorrect phrasing. It’s just kinda funny.
as article points out: that one person is supported by a whole class of Americans - the billionaires. And those in turn are supported by not insignificant portion of American population. So plural is very apropos here.
Pretty much all buisnesspeople hate the trade war, and trade protectionism in general.
And 1/3 follow without reservation.
And another 1/3 don’t care what happens.
As is tradition.
This isn’t even like an objective of the whole MAGA movement, though. Maybe they’ll manage to drum up more support over time, but right now, it’s the fuhrer’s vanity project. So, that doesn’t really count as “being serious about it”, for the rest of them.
It’s really just a few of us, but they control the media and military so that sucks.
Even if we came willingly, the Republicans wouldn’t really want another California.
Trump doesn’t seem to get that’s what it would be, though. Except also add a raging insurgency, which would most likely spread.
in the hypothetical case of an annexation there is no way Canada would get statehood. they would be just another puerto rico
Depends on the hypothetical, I guess. We’re already handwaving a lot of things.
Trump is rhetorically pretty specific about it being a new state.
The title seems to be generating confusion, but the author’s point is that there are billionaire oligarchs (not just Trump, people whose power is not term-limited) pushing to gain control of Canada’s resources. He’s not talking about ordinary Americans nor is he necessarily talking about an invasion or a war.
The playbook here is generally to apply economic pressure with the aim of causing political discontent, while at the same time financing an opposition faction that’s more pliable, like they’re doing against Cuba, Afghanistan, Iran, etc.
And did in the UK and US.
Sounds like the same play book that is used with great success in Europe currently.
Get your gun license. I’m not kidding.
You don’t have to own a gun. Just learn how they work so when push comes to shove, you’ll be ready.
You shouldn’t need a license.
I have lived in countries with and without firearms licensing and I respectfully disagree. At a minimum, pistols need to be regulated.
You absolutely should. We’re talking about tools whose purpose is to destroy and kill.
You’ll learn just how bad the firearms restrictions have gotten in Canada since 2020.
It’s not about the restrictions though. It’s about knowing how to use the guns. And about gun safety.
Nah, the restrictions are pretty severe.
They basically were aiming to ban all semi-auto rifles without saying they wanted to ban semi-autos.
The requirements on those haven’t changed since the 90s. You want people to be ready for a possible guerilla war and basically still ban 15000 models of firearms by name without any reason other than ‘AR-15 bad’ and ‘this rifle looks military even though it is a plinker jam-o-matic in a civilian caliber’. They sent many to Ukraine and they threw the latter in the garbage because of useless they are. They even banned hunting rounds for arbitrary reasons, like single shot rifles from the 1880s and the Weatherby .460 magnum, a big game hunting round, because they banned anything with a muzzle energy of more than 20K joules… Calling it an anti material rifle, which it is woefully unsuited for. Even banning the .50 BMG, which has never been used in a crime in Canada, was done entirely on some ‘we have moved beyond this as a society’ or ‘weapons of war Canadians don’t need’ even though at this point the world has been regressing back to violent authoritianism at breakneck speeds AND they have done jackshit to counter any rightwing misinformation. Incels are getting worse and worse and they are still pushing for gun laws entirely due to the 1989 shooting done by a proto-incel.
If anything I firmly believe they will discourage the average Canuck from resisting and those that and survive this war will probably have to deal with all manner of issues from the government going forward.
I get your point. And I agree with you. Those bans were not decided on factual information but on emotions.
And we all know the actual crimes aren’t committed with legal weapons anyways. They’re mostly done with guns coming from south of the border.
I think you can learn the skills within our existing legal framework. If I were to introduce someone to firearms that has no prior firearms experience we’d be starting with a 22 or maybe even a pellet gun. Access to currently prohibited weapons to further advance individuals that already possess skills is a completely different topic. This doesn’t even start to address the realities of the role of firearms in modern conflict.
There’s lots of more valuable ways for people to spend their time “preparing” for whatever the future holds for us. If someone thinks that prohibited weapons are the key to survival they can seek training through other means like joining the reserves. Or take an active role in politics and work towards changing the legislation. Or if things are so bad already then break the law and learn/possess those weapons anyway.
with a 22 or maybe even a pellet gun.
Be me - purchases a Kriss Vector .22Lr, shot it once at the range, bought an optic for it, planned to take it out again, government bans it because “it’s a weapon of warfare” and shouldn’t be in the hands of civilians.
To say I was disappointed is an understatement.
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I wouldn’t condone breaking any laws.
I generally agree with that sentiment. With respect to Canada’s firearms laws I think the legislation we had was decent including the previously available restricted licenses for handguns. I’m not personally and advocate for handguns but I think the requirements for storage, transportation, background checks, etc. allowed those that wanted to pursue the hobby to do so while also maintaining a level of safety for the general public. There’s probably some tweaks to be made and loopholes to close but a decent framework.
I don’t think we’re at this point in Canada but I would condone breaking laws that are amoral or unethical. To take it to an extreme, I support the actions of the resistance fighters that were breaking the laws of nazi Germany. I was intending to convey something more along the lines that if someone believes so strongly that was the only path to keeping themself and their loved ones safe then they have the freewill to act accordingly, they’ll just have to live with the consequences of their actions.
And i am very serious about killing any doodle who sets foot in this country with that intent.
I don’t care if i die.
I am not living undet the rule of people who worship curtis yarvin.
MAGA dipshits severely underestimate how many Canadians would actually enjoy taking a break from the rat race to repel invaders.
Asymmetrical warfare is our thing
That and inventing new war crimes.
They’re not war crimes the first time
Everybody needs a hobby.
Because every war you’ve ever been in was asymmetrical?
I kid, I kid…
We were in the big wars (the whole time!), but yes, since then it’s been helping someone else do COIN.
Yupp…
Act 1 US war of independence founded modern Canada because a) the quebecois ever fearful of cultural erasure, ever relevant today given those US demands, b) those not in favour of a racist dictatorship (yes the anglosphere was turning their backs on a monster they helped create), my family moved to loyalist country, fitting, and c) Britain’s desire to legitimize presence by recognizing first nations,… founded canada. The US invaded thinking we would join but Quebec and the indigenous wanted nothing to do with that genocidal regime. An asymetrical response ended American interests.
Act 2 The war of 1812, the US claims they kinda won because they genocided the Iroquois nation and paved a way for continental-scale genocide … but another goal was conquest of Canada. A goal they failed on every county…britain, its loyalists, and later founders of Canada fought back and said fuck you. Canada 100% repelled the US invasion using asymmetrical warfare.
Act 3 Fuck around and find out.
As an Oregonian, I’d like to fight the US along side you.
I think they’d find out Washington Stste, Minnesota, Michigan, Maine, Vermont, New York and probably Massachusetts, California and Oregon would all join Canadian resistance.
You forgot New Hampshire
You mean north Tennessee? I wouldn’t count on them.
Act 2 the US claims they kinda won? Is that not the war that is not taught in schools down there because Canada got shit faced and burnt down the white house.
Oh they teach it in schools, but they leave that part out. It is framed as a US victory due to hype and cope
I don’t think you can say that if you’ve never been invaded/occupied by a superior army.
Maybe come over to vietnam and go to some museums or talk to some people if you want to know what asym warfare is like.
Yes, Canadians have no idea what it’s like. We’ve seen even less ugliness than Americans, and when this whole thing started, we had to go to hockey for martial metaphors.
Living in a warzone is a learning curve you can go up fast, though, because you have no choice.
I know someone who served in the Canadian Armed Forces and did a tour diffusing IEDs in Afghanistan. I’m pretty sure he knows how to build one if it came to that.
Americans don’t recognize that Canadians actually did go to Afghanistan. It’s not just Hockey metaphors, people in Canada actually do know the tactics the US military has a difficult time dealing with. That’s because our soldiers had to deal with those same tactics when fighting alongside Americans for two fucking decades. If the US decides to betray Canada they will soon be reminded that Canadians were in Afghanistan and what was learned there.
Yeah, combat vets, relief workers and refugees are not included. Even just being from a family with those backgrounds teaches you a bit about how the world really works, when push comes to shove, speaking from experience.
The average Canadian on the street lacks the experience to understand, though. Even more than that, there’s been a kind of resistance to understanding it, because it’s easier and cleaner not to.
If OP thinks guerilla warfare is a vacation, they probably don’t know what they don’t know.
It’s also worth noting that Canada has a land border with the USA. They can also pass as generic American, if required.
Asymmetric warfare wouldn’t only be focused in Canada. E.g. a coordinated set of drone strikes could basically shatter large portions of the American power grid. There are too many soft, unmanned targets to viably protect, and the lead time of spares is measured in months to years, on some parts.
I really need to figure out a way to practice American-style vowels.
Heck a large portion of the American power grid is in Canada since we sell them so much.
Do you not remember covid? Your treatlerites rioted in Montréal and tried to do a J6 over the most tepid restrictions. The ones jerking off over a romantic idea of fighting a war aren’t prepared to spend years living without the lifestyle they’re accustomed to and have themselves and their families randomly imprisoned or murdered by the evil empire they’ve served so faithfully. You’d be closer to the conditions of the IRA than Vietnam or Iran, except even they had a history of genocides to radicalize people.
FYI, I’m not Canadian. Just an observer from the other side of the pond, watching America die in morbid horror.
Are you joking? Most of you couldn’t even fucking handle staying inside and not going to parties when you wanted to. Stop acting like Canadians are hard.
TBF OP was just speaking for themselves.
I wouldn’t. Why conduct the destructive mess that is a war in our own living room?
I’d contribute to any effort to make long range drones that strike energy and electronic infrastructure deep inside the US instead.
Keep the destruction over there. Watch American arrogance melt away as they realize that fighting a war isn’t just some thing they send troops elsewhere to die over while they get to stay comfy and safe at home anymore.
The answer is going to be both.
Drones are the future of warfare. Ukraine has proven that.
But if the US decides to invade, it absolutely WILL send troops over the border. And we’ll be there, shooting them down. Carney may have to undo Trudeau’s silly handgun restrictions for us RPAL holders for the good of Canada.
I’m too old to be a soldier, but I can still hold a rifle. I’m not a violent person, but I will defend my country. I don’t believe that most people in the US support this, but I will shoot to kill any that come across the border with plans to invade.
In my nearly 60 years on this planet, this is the first time I’ve said I will die defending my country.
So yes, in a situation of war we support drones. We support attacks deep within US territory, rather than traditional face-to-face combat.
But we will do whatever it takes to protect our country.
Almost 70 and cannot walk but 2 metres at a time. Strap a bomb to my scooter and I will drive into a bunch of em and blow them up.
Hello future drone operator
Ohh that would be fun. One little, two little invaders, three, four little invaders …
I am sure we can get you doing other things rather than suicide scooting.
Dude why die at someone when you can blast old dude ass at them. That’s dangerous ass.
If you’re in a war, you’re going to get people dying on both sides of the border.
And it’s going to be hard to procure that many drone parts under occupation, so if that’s your job, you might end up doing car/ATV bombs instead.
You all were the only ones to burn the White House down. Just saying…
If they’re in your living room, they’re in effective control of your area. At that point there will not be long-range drones going (maybe coming in), there will only be direct action by the local populace.
Why conduct the destructive mess that is a war in our own living room?
shorter supply lines?
Same, TBH. I don’t have a whole lot to lose, and I’m pretty serious about democracy and human rights.
Plenty of Americans are hoping a dumb ass move like that is enough to weaken the morons in charge and join your side.
Like both coasts and most of the bordering states would have majorities on Canada’s side.
If I go into Canada, it will be to fight on your side
doodle
As an American I like this epithet very much and will be sabotaging supply lines to keep the True North strong and free.
As an American I’d love to help ya, so send others here or grab me I hate the orange nazi
Well you better call it a whoopsie doodle or I’m gonna cry. Do you really want making me cry on your conscience after that?
Please no, I already buy too much Canadian whisky. Add in proper poutine… chef’s kiss. Jokes aside, this would be dumb.
I’m american, and NOPE i am not, the Trump & Co are tho
I love Canada, I’m sorry this is happening 🥺 we’re neighbors
Greed and corruption running wild 💀
110%, and unfortunately nothing will get better until we Americans get up and do something about it. But THAT won’t happen until more of us are personally inconvenienced by this fuckery.
Simply voting them out has a pretty low chance of working long term, made worse by the actions of the elite to sow uncertainty in our election system. On top of that, we’ve been shown that peacefully protesting makes little to no change at all in this situation. When peaceful protesting continually fails, it makes violence inevitable. I have no doubt in my mind that a major violent event will happen eventually here in the US. When will it happen? In November, when fraud runs rampant in the election? If the grift succeeds and Repubs win the midterm, I think all bets will be off at that point.
Peacefulness has failed, it’s guillotine time.
Trump & Co are tho
Without a helluva lot of effective opposition…
Opposition with even peaceful protests and journalism/research got deemed terrorist by DHS FBI CIA
Well, I guess that means everyone should just bend over and let the fascists have their way?
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True. I am very serious about thinking my President is a fucking moron for wanting to annex Canada. And also for every single other aspect about him.
I’m American (unfortunately) and I want no part in annexing any country. I actually can’t recall anyone else here who does… Well except big orange wrinkly pimples in DC.
Point of order, I would like to annex a small slice of quiche and a latte
Where do I sign up for this special military operation?
oh damn you just missed it. maybe next saturday at the good german place that makes the best damn quiche i’ve ever had.
this saturday i’m gonna be in stockton eating greek food
Damn that special military operation was fast AF.
maybe because unlike some dictators we know how to plan our special military operations
I’m 51 and would murder every single American that entered here and tried to take away my country, freedom and my family.
I’d die, but I’d hopefully murder a fuckload of yanks before that.
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How can anyone take this article seriously after opening with this clear misinterpretation:
Prime Minister Mark Carney has stated he will return to the bargaining table “when the Americans start being serious.” How much more serious can the Americans be? The Americans have been very serious right from the beginning of Trump’s second term. Trump has constantly repeated 51ST state, governor of Canada statements and now Lake America.
I don’t know how you miss inference “…about a trade deal.” and it not be intentional.
We may not be understanding each other here…
I am complaining about the article because they imply Americans are taking things seriously while Carney is just throwing an empty excuse… “How much more serious can the Americans be?”
I do believe Carney is right in that we can sit down and talk trade when the brats down south stop throwing tantrums… the article seems to think that throwing threats and tantrums is equal to being serious about talking trade which is complete bullshit
Trump Always Chickens Out is a disastrous belief
