• Lemmy@lemm.ee
    27·
    9 months ago

    The fact that I’ve actually done this while talking to women makes me scream inside.

      • Pantherina@feddit.de
        8·
        9 months ago

        I mean Fedora is better for most. Or maybe opensuse tumbleweed / slowroll.

        Things should roll per package but people should decide how long every package should be tested.

        This would cause unique systems for many though, so some distro versioning, having testing, tested and very well tested makes sense.

        Fedora has this when creeping at the second latest release until EOL afaik.

    • KISSmyOS@feddit.deOP
      312·
      9 months ago

      And me with my wife.
      She has no clue what a rolling release or a distro is, and she doesn’t care, but she gets horny when I nerd out about something I’m enthusiastic about.

      • herrcaptain@lemmy.ca
        361·
        9 months ago

        Lucky! My wife just browses Instagram on her phone , occasionally saying “uh huh,” while I ramble on about my latest obsession like a toddler talking about seeing a garbage truck.

        • XIN@lemm.ee
          24·
          9 months ago

          I just realized that’s how my wife sees me after my son was explaining how a sink works for the 73rd time. My takeaway is I need to be more invested in what he’s talking about no matter how boring, cause getting ignored when you’re excited about something doesn’t feel great.

          The other takeaway is my wife isn’t mean, I just talk a lot.

          • herrcaptain@lemmy.ca
            6·
            9 months ago

            Same! She’ll pay attention for a bit, but I realize I can be a bit relentless in my info-dumps.

        • KISSmyOS@feddit.deOP
          91·
          9 months ago

          It’s not really luck.

          My wife is also an instagram addict. But I’m genuinely interested in what she sees in instagram, and she’s genuinely interested in what I like. Cause…you know, we love each other.

          • herrcaptain@lemmy.ca
            6·
            9 months ago

            To be fair, I am playing it up a bit. The reality is that she’s an extreme introvert and needs alone time to decompress after work. We make it work - mostly by sharing memes with each other.

  • mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world
    239·
    9 months ago

    So your GF is in favor of uncontrollable security issues and massive user scrambling to fix whatever your update fucked up on a daily basis?

    There’s a reason updates are batched, this is so fuckdamn shortsighted.

    • KISSmyOS@feddit.deOP
      92·
      9 months ago

      There’s a reason updates are batched

      Yes. And I like to be the one doing that on my system.

      • mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world
        615·
        9 months ago

        And I like updates that are actually tested on silicon before they’re rolled out. Rolling distros don’t do that. In that environment, YOU are the tester.

        And You must be a fucking unemployed savant to be able to check every line of code being pushed to you daily.

        • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
          11·
          9 months ago

          You must be a fucking unemployed savant to be able to check every line of code being pushed to you daily.

          I get this feeling from a lot of the posters here.

        • KISSmyOS@feddit.deOP
          81·
          9 months ago

          Actually, I use Arch cause I’m too lazy for other distros (I’ve tried all the main ones).
          The simplicity makes it much easier to automate the entire process.
          I run my update.sh script before I install new packages, or when a news entry pops up in my terminal about a change requiring manual intervention.
          So about once a month I type in update.sh, monitor the messages for 5 minutes and reboot.

          Literally the only issue I had so far was a software from 2021 that didn’t compile on the first try cause it expected an older version of Java.
          Other than that, it’s the least buggy distro I know.

          • mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world
            110·
            9 months ago

            So, your personal computer then? Just one instance?

            Do you think that holds up when you are supporting a legacy environment of 200+ VMs and iron with code written by the cheapest consultants for 20+ years?

            Because that is a very different experience.

            • zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
              161·
              9 months ago

              No shit that’s a different experience, who in this thread is suggesting running fucking Arch on their server farm? Lmao

            • KISSmyOS@feddit.deOP
              61·
              9 months ago

              No, I use it on my personal computer as well as my server and that of my org, with a nextcloud, website and forum.

              Do you think that holds up when you are supporting a legacy environment of 200+ VMs and iron with code written by the cheapest consultants for 20+ years?

              No. I never claimed rolling release is right for every system.

            • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
              61·
              9 months ago

              ::From the shadows, a ragged, scruffy, burnt out looking enterprise IT employee slowly emerges into the room. His button-up grid patterned shirt has a few buttons hanging on for dear life. His face lit only by flickering server lights and a crumpled cigarette smolder lazily hanging from his dry, crusty lips. His employee badge sways to and fro with each bedraggled rise and fall of his gaunt shoulders.::

              “Oh, you like your rolling releases and your AURs and your ‘cutting edge’ software huh?”

              ::He takes another drag before blowing a stench into your face that can only be described as vaporized despair. He then drops the cigarette into his coffee with a hiss, swirls it a few times, and takes a long swig.::

              “Do you think that holds up when you are supporting a legacy environment of 200+ VMs and iron with code written by the cheapest consultants for 20+ years?”

              ::His eyes narrow. The open source software enthusiasts who were moments ago happily discussing their personal computing experiences are stunned, unsure what to say.::

              “…Because that is a very different experience.”

              ::He turns and melds back into the server room from which he emerged, mumbling something that sounds like ‘absolute fools’ and ‘don’t even know about ESXI…’

        • Gunpachi@lemmings.world
          4·
          9 months ago

          Do yourself a favour and try opensuse tumbleweed. You won’t regret it.

          Also even on arch things doesn’t break unless the user installs a whole lot of stuff from the AUR. Since there are flatpaks around most people can get their day to day apps working without relying on community repos.

          • mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world
            26·
            9 months ago

            So you feel comfortable doing that in a prod environment where you support 200+ linux boxes?

            I mean IDGAF what you do on your local PC but a business environment is no place for rolling updates with the exception of the most egregious zero days, and STILL there needs to be on-silicon testing.

            • KISSmyOS@feddit.deOP
              5·
              9 months ago

              In a business environment with 200+ linux boxes, it doesn’t matter which Linux distro you like best. Cause you’re going to have to run a system with enterprise-level support and wide adoption to cover your ass and find employees who are familiar with it.
              So that leaves Red Hat, Suse or Ubuntu as your only options.

            • ☭ SaltyIceteaMaker ☭@iusearchlinux.fyi
              41·
              9 months ago

              When was this talk ever about a production environment??? Of course i wouldn’t run fucking arch on a server or similar. But the benefits bof arch on my PC outweigh the disadvantages

    • herrvogel@lemmy.world
      2·
      9 months ago

      Few years ago I installed arch and started furiously pacman -Syu’ing just to see how long it would take before some botched update would send me scrambling for a fix. Still waiting for it to happen. Any day now.

      • evranch@lemmy.ca
        2·
        9 months ago

        I’ve never run Arch itself but have been super happy with Manjaro. They do the testing and batch up the updates for you. 6 months in on several different machines with no issues at all, honestly better than any Debian based desktop I’ve run.

        Almost anything I’ve ever wanted has been in either the main repo or AUR, no more hassle with stale versions of this or that when I want to run some hot new software of the week. Everything just works.

        However as mentioned elsewhere it’s all Debian all the time for my servers, where stability is the name of the game.

        • harmsy@lemmy.world
          1·
          9 months ago

          My experience with Manjaro was okayish for a lot of things, but if I wanted to try some new software, it was a coin toss to see if it would compile or not, and I don’t have the expertise to track down why something didn’t compile. I got fed up with it recently when something I wanted to install…didn’t compile. I went to the effort of backing up my computer, missed a few minor folders, and migrated to Mint.

  • spacebanana@lemmy.world
    11·
    9 months ago

    Me explaining to my girlfriend (the voices in my head) about the brilliant magic of source-based packaging with binary cache