I was never depressed until I couldn’t find a job and fell into debt and felt worthless.
I should probably just smile more or something
Hey I got these pills that will perk you right up!
I totally get what you’re saying. I just become apathetic though. You rent goes up and your pay goes down. Somehow you’re supposed to be okay with it.
I mean, this is patently false. Mental health professionals - especially therapists - aren’t there to “allow” or not “allow” you to talk about things. You can talk about whatever you like.
And most therapists, especially clinical social workers, are well-versed in systemic perspectives and anti-oppressive practices.
I’m a clinical social worker and a therapist, and I talk with my clients about socioeconomic factors all the time. Especially because I see a lot of people from the LGBTQIA+ community, and it’s impossible to do therapy with any marginalized community without mentioning the social aspects.
I get that there are bad therapists out there who may not do this. But still, these kind of posts just gaslight people about what therapy is really like.
Yeah feel like maybe 60-70% of my therapy sessions involve talking about socioeconomic factors behind my problems and I’ve never felt like my therapist downplayed that
Recently had to tell my psychiatrist that you cant reframe poverty into something positive.“But you do have x y and z don’t you?” Yhea while others have the alphabet and all the unicode charaters and we can’t get them unless we do things you can’t recommend. silence “same time in two weeks?”
I think you need a new psychiatrist
No, she’s fine, she reached out after other clients said the same thing.
Mental health professionals rarely allow you to talk about the socioeconomic factors too
While there are certainly going to be individual examples to the contrary, as commentary on the entire field of psychology, this is utter bullshit. Social determinants of health are a huge part of the work.
If your therapist doesn’t “allow” you to talk about the systemic problems with capitalism, then you should find a new therapist asap
Yea I feel like that criticism is coming from people who have never been to therapy and want to convince themselves its beneath them
It’s not beneath me, I just don’t see how it will help when all my problems are based off my limited resources or societal issues that won’t change. What are they going to do for me besides teach me ways to cope? I’m already doing that. If I’m paying for it I want the end result to be happiness, not just coping. If some therapist showed up and offered me a freebie I might try it out but I’m not paying for it unless someone can convince me I’m wrong in my stance.
You’re not entirely wrong. I haven’t had therapy in a while now, but every session during 2025 was just them pretty much agreeing with me that everything is fucked (yes, including capitalism) and nothing I was saying was at all irrational.
I eventually realized that it got to a point where there just wasn’t anything they could tell me to assuage my depression or anxiety, because they didn’t disagree with my reasons for being upset and angry. And I didn’t need to spend money to have someone tell me that my fears and anxieties are justified every few weeks
Maybe you’re right, but all the people passing around the memes about therapists trying to somehow cover for society’s failings, as if they’re part of the Illuminati, are still just making stuff up
They obviously aren’t part of the “illuminati”, but just as obviously are both invested and well-positioned in that society. Their job is to help integrate you. It’s not a conspiracy, and honestly not particularly complex.
That theory sounds good, and you’re right that it’s simple to understand, but in reality it doesn’t hold water. Everyone I know who goes to therapy, reports that their therapist is totally open to saying that the world is just fucked up, and that’s a big part of the problem, and putting blame on economic or political sources. So this idea that therapists direct away from that, regardless of the cause, just seems to me to be a total falsehood propagated by people who haven’t even spoken to therapists. Its totally mythological as far as I can tell.
I don’t see how this contradicts anything I said. Ascribing societal failings to the world just being fucked up is actually a pretty good example to my point. The therapist is there explicitly to help make changes in an individual so they can better participate in society. Their position has no ability to facilitate systemic change even if that happens to be their intention. No therapist is going to help you self-actualize into the best revolutionary you can be, how could they?
My previous therapist literally recommended that I join a leftist organization to meet people with similar views
This entire post and thread is about how therapists won’t mention capitalism and the housing crisis and instead say that it’s something like depression or a personality disorder that causes someone to feel bad or suicidal. Do you think this claim is true or not? What I am saying directly contradicts that.
I was in behavioral therapy for over a decade a lot of it was about how to handle finances and the way of economics now and how they impact mental health. It was a common subject and group as well.
Don’t make it out to be like there’s some kind of conspiracy that mental health professionals on a lot talk about finances.
you can sign petition to make housing affordable in europe right-to-housing.eu
I wouldn’t say “allow,” more like they won’t necessarily include it as part of the analysis/discussion unless you bring it up first. And then, they may not be well versed in discussing it or helping from that angle, even if it is brought into the picture.
Yeah, a mental health professional isn’t going to be much help with the actual issue, they are more about how to cope with it. Which is also the case when dealing with past trauma; the past is in the past and no one can change that no matter what kind of licenses they have. And while mental health professionals can do something about the system, those things have nothing to do with what their expertise is in (assuming they are the kind that has expertise and aren’t just using people’s issues to recruit or strengthen their ties to their cult and that kind doesn’t want to help you but wants their cult to join in the capitalists in exploiting you, though some do seem to believe they are helping people).
Unofficially its sometimes called shit life syndrome.
The National Man-Couch Love Association member who is also VP basically came out and said let the poor people die a few days ago.
Like how they protect fossil fuel producers by creating a “climate anxiety” disease to blame victims instead.
Mental health professionals rarely allow you to talk about the socioeconomic factors too
Then I guess I’m glad I can’t afford to talk to them.
We can see the trend of worse health outcomes and other quality of life regression, when people have less of the profits from their employment and basic things that reduce artificial scarcity, which workers in many countries enjoy. Death and illness of desperation, another name for artificial scarcity, is reduced by proven methods that places with them would never accept the system usa workers do. Unite for better life for all, including minorities, groups have changed over time but punching down on them or anyone is wrong and unacceptable.
Wouldn’t say impulsivity but the others could be true. That doesn’t mean they’re not caused by capitalism tho lol. You fix problems from the root not apply like idk patches or bandaids idk.
