• herrvogel@lemmy.world
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        There’s no version of this reality where Jobs isn’t a good businessman. You might not like the company or their products, but they’ve somehow managed to build a huge and successful business selling those overpriced toys to tons of people. They managed to create a cult around expensive consumer electronics. That is a massive success no matter how you slice it. And you can’t deny that Jobs played a big part in that.

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          The weird thing is that Apple without Jobs was a failure, but also Jobs without Apple was also a failure.

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          it was just a gag for comic effect. it wasn’t the breadth and depth of my thoughts and feelings of the digital and manufacturing epochs since the 1980s.

          But also, it was kind of begging the question of “is there such thing as a good business man?”

          There’s good for /their/ business. But is that- in general - good?

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            Does the current head of Larian Studios count as a businessman? If so, that’s one I would consider good for the company AND the consumers

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          Also you can tie it directly to Jobs, because when he was gone for a bit, apple fuckin tanked, and then he came back and they came out with the iPod.

          That’s not an accident.

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      Yeah, Steve Jobs was definitely an asshole, and he didn’t personally design any of his products, but he did know what direction to move things in and what consumers wanted in a phone. He was the first to put a truly usable portable touchscreen computer into our pockets with a phone in it, and every phone nowadays is basically just a reimagined, upgraded version of the first iPhone. The way we communicate is forever changed because of the iPhone.

      But yeah iPhone’s are kind of the pinnacle of “how much can we fuck you over before you notice” now. All because of the little Apple on the back of the phone.

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        There is a story that the concept of touchscreen phones was stolen from a Nokia engineer who tried to get nokia to produce them but the feature was dismissed as a ‘gimmick’.

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        He didn’t know what customers wanted in a phone.

        He knew what customers would want in a phone when they were taught about its existence.

        The customers had no idea they would want it before he showed it to them.