It’s totally fine if you believe that life starts at conception.
The thing that actually baffles me are the states that passed anti-abortion laws, but struggle to provide adequate health care, especially for those who are not financially stable.

I found this article, “States with more abortion restrictions have higher maternal and infant mortality”, but feel free to correct or educate me on the topic.

Edit: removed “this article” appearing twice and tried to fix preview

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    Two reasons this falls apart:

    1. Abortion is healthcare. There are conditions that can’t be helped by anything else.
    2. They don’t give a shit about mortality rates because it’s someone else doing all the dying (until it’s not).
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    I hate how modern journalism uses phrases to distance us from the harsh reality, like “mortality rates increased” instead of “people killed by government policy”, “officer involved shooting” instead on “murdered by police”, “abortion rights” instead of “human rights”.

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    Those of us who aren’t far-right chuds in the USA have a saying about right-wing policy that may explain the phenomenon: “The cruelty is the point.”

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      More generously, as someone who knew a large number of religious rural folk growing up, what is important to them is to avoid the prospect of someone ‘committing murder’; whether society offers the born child a slow death is of no consequence, as long as no one person or group pulls the metaphorical trigger.

      If I wanted to be even more generous, I would say that they imagine a support network of nongovernment religious organizations and families to indoctrinate the struggling parents and their child… but honestly, I don’t think most of them even think that far ahead.

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        It always pisses me off when people try claiming they want to do that last part.

        Not a single thing is stopping them from setting up support networks that, while I disagree with their politics, could legitimately do good by giving new families resources. But that’s not actually what they want, it’s never been what they want. Because if it was, they’d have done it already.

        It’s as simple as the cruelty is the point. Someone doesn’t live their life exactly how they think it should be lived, they believe that person should be punished.

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          Those support organizations do exist to a certain extent. It’s often an even bigger problem. It’s “Women’s Health Centers”, faith-based “insurance” companies, and gay conversion camps. Catholic hospitals have issues, but they’re the least problematic part of this.

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            Yeah there’s a church near me that has a banner displayed with a picture of an infant saying, “don’t abort me. Help is available. Talk to someone inside.”

            No phone number or email to contact, just a “come inside.”

            Allegedly (coming from a neighbor) if you go inside they try to sell you sketchy insurance and not much else.

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      Yeah it’s this, it’s all about protecting the in crowd and punishing the rest

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    The only people who buy that lie are the useful idiots they got marching in the streets. The decision makers themselves know very well what they’re doing. Don’t mistake cruelty for ineptitude.

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      That was a good watch, I can see binary view being at least part of the problem. I did think that religion might be part of the reason for some laws, but somehow didn’t realize how big. And the video had many other good points worth of the watch.

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    Making money > Everything else. Once we concede that America is hyper capitalist most other problems can be explained.

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        Which is a base they need to win the elections. Which they want so they can give out tax breaks… to the rich. And that’s the circle of life.