Sure, more Palestinians will die
Sure, Ukrainians will die
Sure, US minorities will die
Sure, the entire world will suffer from a fascist demagogue at the head of the most powerful country in the world
But have you considered that, for a few brief moments of time,
we created a lot of value for the shareholderswe got to feel smug over the SHITLIBS who wanted to prevent fascism?Ahh, but you see, you disagreed with Stalin that one time, and therefore you were the fascist all along
As I believe in the abolition of capitalism and the creation of a popular base of support for such a measure, instead of a narrow oligarchy oppressing the proletariat and enforcing its will on society, I am a shitlib. It’s a terrible burden to bear. 😔
Correct, my harm reduction framework is much more violent than your harm reduction framework, and is therefore more interesting, which makes you wrong.
And hardly takes that. All you have to do is have a subtle difference of opinion, and BAM! You’re a fascist.
My favorite, however, is that when you point out that their arguments are 100% logical fallacies, you get banned from multiple communities at once.
But what else am I gonna do with my feelings of impotent rage? Try to actually change something?
It’s honestly such a shockingly privileged position it almost defies belief that anyone could actually be so dense unless they are operating in bad faith. Yes, there are several serious problems in the world, and absolutely none of them are solved by helping the US slip into fascism. Leftists in particular are supposed to hate fascists, so I can’t imagine how anyone with leftist sympathies could possibly want to see what the world looks like with an unrestrained Trunp at the helm. Again, unless they are so privileged they don’t think the consequences would affect them personally, in which case I would call any other profession of external empathy which they might bleet ad nauseum, as questionably sincere.
This was a great comment until you implied only conservatives are deciding not to vote for Harris due to our support of Israel.
I was making fun of that short-sighted self-serving nature by making a comparison to capitalist conservatives, not asserting that champagne socialists are, themselves, capitalist conservatives (though, functionally, their actions serve the same goals).
I got into this argument the other day. People’s arrogance and lack of common sense was disappointing.
Yeah tell ne qbout it thinking not voting for either one somehow helps trump 😂 same people that failed basic arithmetic clearly. What they really msan to say is that people voting third party are not helping harris…and yeah thats the point and entirely not the same thing.
If by “third party” you mean Jill Stein, well…
😂 those in glass houses shouldnt throw stones. Funny that harris has ine supporting her too.
Oh the irony here.
If there are only two viable options, not helping one is the same as helping the other.
Congratulations on mastering the ability to count. Today we’ll learn how addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, ratios work. Strap in kids its a wild ride!
Trump has 30 votes Hilary has 8 votes The difference is 22 A ratio of 4/15ths
If we add one vote to jill she has 1 vote.
Now class what is the difference in votes for hilary and trump? … Thats right its still 22!
And the ratio between them?.. Thats right! Still 4/15.
Now class what if we add 31 more votes to jill?.. Thats right both values are unchanged!
Funny that. What do we say to hilary kids?..
Thats right! It sucks to suck. Maybe next time she’ll have some good ideas to convince voters to vote for her!
But lets assume jill wasnt there: where would those votes have gone? …
No, timy not necessarily. We dont know who would get them or if those people would have voted for either candidate! We can’t just add them to hilary and trump.
49k votes for Stein in Pennsylvania, Trump won by 47k
32k votes for Stein in Wisconsin, Trump won by 22k
51k votes for Stein in Michigan, Trump won by 10k.
Third party voters are useful idiots.
Congratulations on mastering the ability to count. Today we’ll learn how addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, ratios work. Strap in kidd its a wild ride!
Trump has 30 votes Hilary has 8 votes The difference is 22 A ratio of 4/15ths
If we add one vote to jill she has 1 vote.
Now class what is the difference in votes for hilary and trump? … Thats right its still 22! And the ratio between them?.. Thats right! Still 4/15.
Now class what if we add 31 more votes to jill?.. Thats right both values are unchanged!
Funny that. What do we say to hilary kids?..
Thats right! It sucks to suck. Maybe next time she’ll have some good ideas to convince voters to vote for her!
But lets assume jill wasnt there: where would those votes have gone? …
No, timy not necessarily. We dont know who would get them or if thise people would have voted for either candidate! We can’t just add them to hilary and trump.
I am not reading that.
It’s almost like the current and immediate conflict between Israel and Palestinians isn’t the singular thing that the world should have serious concern about, and that realistic solutions to longstanding international diplomacy issues are - wait for it - hard.
But hard things are hard and involve complexity and nuance! I’d much rather call people racist, spout a simplistic solution and call it a day.
You forgot to smugly pat yourself on the back!
Nuh uh!
The amount of people who rationalize arming a genocide is “ok” if a black lady does it, is more than alarming to me.
I’m not saying “don’t vote for her”, but if liberals wouldn’t try to sweep it under the carpet, and shit post memes to bully progressives/leftists - they might have better odds.
The amount of people who rationalize arming a genocide is “ok” if a black lady does it, is more than alarming to me.
Literally no one is saying this.
Except Kamala. She’s justifying the genocide on her campaign trail. She has said outright that she would not stop arms shipments.
She is also the acting VP and can’t really dissociate herself from the current position. She has also talked much more about ending the conflict, about Israel crossing lines and has signalled as hard as ahe can that things would be different, e.g., snubbing Bibi and not meeting him when he came to America (which drove conservatives apoplectic.)
The reality is she is going to continue arming Israel until Israel illegally settles all of Gaza. You cannot tell me that her 60 minutes response inspired any amount of confidence on a ceasefire. She totally ignored all of the reports about US arms being used on refugee camps and jumped straight to a single attack against a retaliatory strike towards Israel and reiterated her belief that the US is inextricably linked to Israel. She reiterated the nonsense that Israel has a right to defend itself against the peoples they have oppressed, subjugated, and genocided.
Trump is Netanyahu’s favorite candidate. The disrespect to Biden/Blinken ceasefire/restraint timidness is done to make Dems look bad. Blinken is a worthless POS who may not have any serious intent to stop genocide. Both Harris and Bernie, by repeating Israel’s right to defend itself, are essentially ok with all Israeli evil, and the unlimited unconditional free weapon support, despite some occasional reserved statements to the contrary. Trump will just use unconditional support for a war on Iran as a means to ethnically cleanse Muslims from the USA.
The “everyone is a Russian Troll” is worse than dead internet theory. Trump is more progressive on not diminishing Russia through Ukraine proxy war. Whether or not he is paid by Russia, ordinary Americans who think diminishing Russia enriches them are victims of disinformation and emotional media manipulation that makes them think support for diminishing Russia/Putin means they care more about Russian prosperity than Russian leadership, and keeping Ukraine nazified on a path to NATO is somehow “liberal”. US empire has never before reached this level of evil and recklessness. The popular normalization of this evil is a certain contributor to US decline and imminent collapse.
Actual Russian operatives from foreign ministry would see Iran as an ally, though the massive forced Russian military production increase from Ukraine proxy war on it, means massive opportunity to assist Iran in a conflict if Ukraine gets resolved. It also means ultra high oil prices/profits. A war on Iran would still be US empire emboldened. All elected political leaders in November will take loyalty oaths to Israel, and there is no indication that Harris would stop such a war, or not involve US troops. It is just more certain that Trump would.
Lol, “keeping Ukraine nazified”
How much of this was a copypasta from something vaguely related?
It’s very scattershot.
A likely end to the war will be Russia keeps the liberated territory, and Ukraine agrees to stay neutral. Ukraine and US will claim victory by not denazifying its rulership. (the only other Russian condition for war starting and continuing)
Lolol.
So, are you paid by the post or the word?
Not to give y’all tips but who in their right mind believes this nazified leadership bullshit?
Ukraine has a lower percentage of Nazis than most countries, including russia, which has one of the higher percentages
It’s not really a factor for my voting preference, as Israel is a proxy-nation of the US. If Kamala wins, Gazans die. If Trump wins, MORE Gazans die. We’re not getting the heat for it, Israel is. So meh. I don’t value human life much anyways. We’re all still violent apes who do what we want, and when there are rules against it, we break them and use violence anyhow. At this point, I’m kind of numb to it. I’ll protect those close to me, everyone not close to me idgaf. If it starts affecting me or my own, I’ll start caring.
Until then, shoot me some more memes.
To each their own but I think this is fucking abhorrent and almost textbook sociopathy.
almost textbook sociopathy
I guarantee you have no fucking clue what the word even means in a medical context; because I’ve not given you enough information in the slightest to be even close to making that kind of diagnosis.
The word you’re looking for is misanthrope.
Edgelord is the word.
Sociopaths can develop attachments to those close to them, usually based more on personal benefit/gain but they sometimes confuse this with genuine emotional attachment.
Though yes, I’m not making an actual medical diagnosis.
