Get the “ but we’re liberals 🤓” joke out now.

Obviously we’re very far left and vocal about being anti establishment, some things I’ve seen posted here, whilst I won’t admit I agree with :) are pretty sus from a feds perspective. If the site was raided and if people were subject to arrests, what do you think they would be charged with? We’re obviously on a list of course but the same can be said about all people tbh so I don’t really care about that, but since the political sphere in the US is becoming more mask off fash from both parties especially the drump comment about “enemy within” what do you think the future is? Also what crime is committed exactly? Might be a weird example but places like Georgia are racially targeting rappers by using their lyrics as evidence that they have committed crimes, couldn’t something similar happen here on this space? Does anyone have any examples of what the crime committed would be exactly or does it fall under freeze-peach.

I think it’s already been alarming for years but even more so with the multitude of arrests of people in support of Palestine including students who were just present at protests. I’ve seen people on here say we have to be organized etc in order for feds to take an initiative, but who knows exactly.

I just wanna know what crime and what jail I’ll be sent to if it all comes to that

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    “National Security” or “Preventing Terrorism” would be my guess. It’s what they do in so called “authoritarian” countries. US would also do the same if it sees its state power under threat or if a certain leader come into power.

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      The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.

      نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.

      volcel-police

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    The real answer is, whatever they want to…

    If they can argue you’ve crossed the line, they’ll get you on some sort of domestic terrorism charge.

    If they can’t, they’ll get you for drugs or another crime, and planting evidence isn’t above them if they need to.

    Maybe they’d even fear for their life during those arrests or you just become another “street crime” statistic and they don’t need to get officially involved.

    They could also black van you if they can get away with it, at which point they don’t even need to pretend anything.

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    As it stands, nothing on Hexbear breaches the letter of the law in western countries.

    But, the reality is that they can arbitrarily arrest those they want to, and the consequent charge and punishment will be equally arbitrary and dependent on what made “push come to shove”. Any previous examples will be equally arbitrarily charged and sentenced. So the only realistic answer is:

    • Crime you’ll be charged with: Anything
    • Punishment: Anything between no punishment and death.
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    It’s all satire / parody covered by the first amendment. Not that it would do you a lot of good if you’re just thrown in a van or held indefinitely without trial which would be the most likely outcome I think

    The only no-no is actionable threats and those are against the rules here iirc, and I have never seen them

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    Can see it happen and it would be comical. How long was that shithole child pron den 4kl@n or st@rmfart both of who produced several shooters allowed to run. You so much as turn ya head left feds are on you like flies on shit

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    Asa Winstanley had his devices taken and his house searched by the pigs, even though he wasn’t charged with anything. This was in the UK where that’s a lot easier for them to do than in the US, but laws are changing every day.

    I bring up Asa because I’m familiar with his work and his social media, and I can say what he says is tame compared to us. We’re all pretty openly very supportive of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran (just yesterday I was asking if someone could help make an Al-Qassam Brigades wallpaper). If we got hit for anything, I think it would be for “supporting terrorism”.

    Granted, I really think that would only involve trying to shut down the website, which we could always just create a new one in a worst case scenario. I don’t think going after individual users is really on the table, that would require NSA type action and the feds aren’t going to break out those resources on some poxy commie website.

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      This was in the UK where that’s a lot easier for them to do than in the US

      Judges in most us jurisdictions will rubber-stamp warrants for raids no matter how ridiculous they are. There aren’t any real barriers to raids and seizures in the us. If they want to they probably can.

      And they can be brutal about it. Like breaking doors off hinges, smashing walls and cutting up furniture “looking for evidence” tearing everything you own apart. Just being as cruel as possible to hurt their victims.