Wish this podcast got attention before the election.
Bias fucking bullshit. Why is Joe Rogan named and not the podcast that usurped him? Media fucking blows
They name it in the first sentence, and at least for me, given it’s longevity and word of mouth I know what Joe Rogan implies, but if you said “MeidasTouch” in the headline, I’d have no idea the implication of that shift, since I haven’t listened to either of the two.
You can do both in a title.
You can, but clickbait rags want you to click to find out what they intentionally left out of the title.
If they just put the name I would have no idea who they are. Writing the full name plus “,an anti-Trump podcast” would be a really long title with extra info they get in the first sentence.
Wanting to stop at the headline is a bad habit. Just click the article and complain if the name isn’t right there.
“Anti-Trump podcast MeidasTouch dethrones Rogan in charts”
That’s two fewer words than the original headline. 🤷♂️
Be that as it may, we know that the majority of readers wouldn’t read past the title. Knowing this, NewsWeek still decided to not include the name of the anti-trump podcast which dethroned Joe Rogan’s podcast. I think this is the bias that they are referring to.
Wdym? It literally says the podcast name is “The MeidasTouch Podcast” in the first sentence.
Headlines are important
Per the other comment, headlines. Internet dwellers read the headline to decide whether or not to read something. You can think of a headline as involuntary information injection.
So Newsweek wants everyone to see Joe Rogan’s name but not MeidasTouch.
If only they would bother to vote.
That’s where you come in my friend. It’s going to take boots in the ground and hard work to get people to vote. I’m going to do my part, I hope you will to. 💙
Let’s see if there’ll be another chance.
Why don’t they list MeidasTouch in the headline?
Better title: “Pro-America podcast MeidasTouch dethrones shitty pro-donvict podcast in the charts”
Eeeeh. I can’t be the only one who won’t touch something described as “pro-America” with a ten foot pole.
I think it’s a mistake to let the right winger take claim to everything related to patriotism and national symbols.
I will say, before the election, i was watching them pretty hard. I dropped it for my own mental health after the election though. I wasn’t a huge fan of Ben Meiselas because he became more and more sensational but I really liked Michael Popoks legal commentary. I felt like Ben started shading into the tone and repetition patterns of the far right podcasters but either way, they both always had their facts straight and everything they said and predicted was backed by evidence and legal experience. Popok is a smart fuckin dude though.
Also, I’d say they’re “pro democracy” as that’s the line they always pushed unless it changed after the election.
If you want to ease into it just check out Popoks stuff as it’s way more objective. I learned so much about the legal/judicial system from him and it was all validated by other sources.
I’m still subscribed but otherwise I share your thoughts exactly. Is also how I heard of the gal defending Luigi, I really enjoyed her stuff with Popok. I still feel like I can’t get back into any of it anymore though. Like what does it matter if everything they say is factually accurate if at the end of the day the law doesn’t matter and facts don’t seem to matter.
Agree popok is the juice on that channel. Agnifilo used to be there a lot too
Aww, did she leave? She didn’t have popoks stage presence but she was still sharp as fuck
i think she might be busy? nah don’t ring a bell?
newsweek.com, a known right wing source, thats why.
I think this is the chart they are talking about, if anyone’s curious.
Just listened a bit. These guys deep dive quite a bit, but I hope that this bump is from people who are previous Trump voters that now realize how fucked they are by Trump and get angry.
Unlikely. Trump is a cult. He can do no wrong.
He’s created that in large part because of the media environment around him. Many republicans were upset and outraged on Jan 6th until they heard the fox news, rogan, etc line
Change the media consumption and a lot will follow from there. Changes to which media are more dominate are going to matter more than people think
Trump is a conman and excellent salesman.
In a cult he could say whatever and they’d believe him. This did not work out well when he tried to get MAGA vaccinated with the vaccines “he” produced.
Instead he floats everything under the rainbow and runs with whatever gets the most cheers.
https://youtu.be/klYjLMJ4z3E?t=646 Timestamp 10:47 for a cult expert explaining it.
Not with that attitude. But go off! keep perpetuating it
It’s been 9 years and an unfathomable amount of indictable behaviors in broad daylight recorderded in 4K… I’m done holding out hope for these people, they are sick.
What else could he do that he hasn’t already done?
Shit, I think we’ve all been asking ourselves that on a regular basis for years now and here we are still regularly surprised.
And would it harm him? Probably not.
Apologize and show humilty and remorse for his actions and those he’s insipred and enabled?
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“Heil Satan!”
Might lose 3% of his cultists. The rest will be “I’ve always been cool with Satan, just like Russia!”
Leave Satan out of this.
Do they actually do interviews with experts? Or is it just two dudes pretending to be experts and presenting (mis)information
Yes they do. They also interview a lot of the Democratic congress critters. The lawyer that represents Luigi has been a regular contributor to the Meidas Touch for the last year or so.
Jon Stewart’s podcast is also good if you want interviews with experts. He also gets far more nerdy and into the weeds in his podcast than he ever was allowed to on TV or streaming
Less than a month into the new administration, the rise of the left-leaning MeidasTouch to become the country’s most popular podcast indicates a potential shift in tone currently resonating with Americans.
Is it actually Leftist or is it liberal? I’d welcome a number one Leftist show, but I don’t think most USA citizens are politically literate enough to know the difference. We’ve been brainwashed by decades of propaganda to think liberalism is synonymous with Leftist.
Center right liberal
They self identify as progressive and it seems that they are, so definitely not liberals. I stopped clicking Brian Tyler Cohen videos though because he does clickbait bullshit like “trump gets NIGHTMARE legal news” or “trump campaign SUNK” and it ends up being some legal bullshit they have to re-file because they messed it up the first time, or something stupid like that. Seriously just scroll through his shorts. It’s awful.
Gotta play the YouTube algorithm sadly
Soft clickbait I don’t mind, but BTC’s titles are “the sky is falling” levels of bullshit. I didn’t even block his videos, I just stopped clicking and they completely fell out of my feed.
It’s a shame because it’s not bad content, I’m just sick of clicking a video expecting some big news involving actual consequences for terrible people, only to be told they will get away with a finger wag at worst.
I stopped watching him when he did his show from that expensive looking booth at the DNC.
I wanna see TrueAnon up there…
My friend. May Brace bless you and keep you.
Next up, QAA Podcast.
This guy’s close. Tried watching it and it was hard. But then again I never tried Rogan as he seems like a turd. Maybe people just want loud obnoxious content that doesn’t teach you much… Guess it feels better then it being on the right wing nazi sphere…
Its shitlib echo chamber stuff
Oh, so like Pod Save America. Ok, I’ll avoid the shit out of it. Thanks!
They specifically said “left-leaning” to stop people like you from asking stupid questions like that. Stop gatekeeping anti-fascism.
I don’t think you’re as familiar with the meaning of terms as you think. Some people call the NYT left-leaning. They absolutely are not. They are a liberal publication and that has a different meaning.
This is what I meant when I said USA citizens have been corrupted by decades of propaganda. Conservative idiots genuinely believe socialism is about making people eat bugs as opposed to helping people out and doing things for their betterment. And liberals genuinely believe that they are Leftists. But go ahead and call my question stupid.
If “leftists” oppose the definition of liberalism then they’re not leftists.
Wow, I didn’t think I’d have need to copy / paste a post from thirty seconds ago!
I don’t think you’re as familiar with the meaning of terms as you think. Some people call the NYT left-leaning. They absolutely are not. They are a liberal publication and that has a different meaning.
This is what I meant when I said USA citizens have been corrupted by decades of propaganda. Conservative idiots genuinely believe socialism is about making people eat bugs as opposed to helping people out and doing things for their betterment. And liberals genuinely believe that they are Leftists.
Ooooh those propogandists promoting sinister ideologies such as…
civil rights and protections against discrimination on basis of race, ethnicity, gender, disability, etc…
Plus fair working conditions and collective bargaining. Spooky stuff.
Wooosh
You think liberalism is about those topics but it’s actually about those topics plus corporate greed. I want the last part to go in the trash. So, Woosh bud. You know less than you think you do about political parties.
Can you explain what you mean by this? I don’t see how recognizing the ideological difference between leftism & liberalism makes someone not a leftist… they differ pretty strongly on their central economic thesis, which is sort of a big deal given how influential the economy is in… like literally every area of our society & political systems…
The definition of liberalism is that a person believes in the enshrinement of basic human rights, equality, and equity such that a state or government body cannot infringe upon those rights unless its inaction would be a detriment to the rights of others.
People who oppose liberalism generally conflate liberalism with capitalism and capitalism with western nations. Basically, if you oppose liberals you’re just a piece of shit.
I mean, this is just factually wrong. Usually these days when people refer to liberalism it’s shorthand for neoliberalism & understood as such. The only way you can make the reply you just made in good faith is if you are somehow blissfully unaware of the main tenants of the modern liberal movement for at least the past 30-40 years… and even then it’s not like classical liberalism was anything other than favourable to free market capitalists.
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We need to start calling ourselves something else. Liberal and Leftist isn’t doing us any favors and is keeping people alienated from messages that may otherwise reach them. Maybe Centrists?? The labels are keeping us divided, but Centrist is like saying you are a rational human, and I think many people consider themselves to be that. Need to have a more unifying “label”.
Centrist conveys not having any clear ideology. I am for helping people.
This will only lead to the workers’ cause being diluted. Leftism is socialism. It is anti capitalism. It is named in opposition to the right wing deliberately. The dichotomy exists for a reason. Our enemies are capitalists. They are the ruling class. Diluting our cause achieves nothing but losing revolutionary momentum.
We need louder leftist voices. We need the messaging to get as far and wide as possible. The far right has been winning at this. They own the tech companies, the social media giants, they run the algorithms. We need to push people further and further off of those platforms and amplify leftist voices as loud as we can. We need more propaganda. We need more organization.
Oh God, not this hexbear twisted logic. Back to Shillville.
Liberalism isn’t Leftism. It’s corporate.
Can you imagine if every time someone pointed out the difference between Democrats & Republicans, we had to sit through endless comments of people speaking up to say things like “don’t gatekeep fascism, mom!!” or “not this moneybear twisted logic!!”?
Liberalism and Leftism broadly disagree on their respective core economic tenants. They’re ideologically further apart than Democrats and Republicans. And yet, you struggle to comprehend them as distinct entities without getting upset and triggered… if you seriously consider it divisive to understand that diversity of opinion on the left is good and a sign of a healthy democracy, I don’t know what to tell you.
You need to take a good long hard look at what you’re promoting here. Not everybody needs to think the same or adhere to exactly the same ideology in order to be deserving of respect and work together with others for common causes. We don’t need everyone to be grouped under one label for collective action and agreeable democratic reforms to take place. In fact, it’s important that we aren’t grouped that way… it’s detrimental to us all regardless of whether you’re liberal or left.
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Of course. Anybody who disagrees with your personal narrow sliver of opinion must just be a Russian bot. /s
Thank you for proving to every person reading that you’re only commenting in bad faith.
Leftists would care what you think about it if liberals hadn’t just spent a century killing and persecuting them.
Being a leftist is not the same thing as being on your national left, cope.
leftist, almost always comes from right wing sources. in the usa there isnt a true political left.
There is… but it’s not the Democrats.
How are you sure that you haven’t bee brain washed?
The left-right spectrum is a construct. It doesn’t line up at all with reality. In reality, tribalism is 90% of politics. Most people vote the way their parents do. Some rebellious types don’t, and instead just conform to whatever their peer group thinks on political matters. Ideology is a post-facto rationalization for all of this.
Currently the “leftist” tribe is becoming more and more into alignment with the fascist tribe. You both show a common disdain for those in the opposition “liberal” tribe after all. And that’s what really matters in all of this mess. Leftists have joined fascist movements in the past, they just come up with rationalizations (which they have a lot of practice with) for why that’s the ideologically correct thing to do.
And yet again.
I don’t think you’re as familiar with the meaning of terms as you think. Some people call the NYT left-leaning. They absolutely are not. They are a liberal publication and that has a different meaning.
This is what I meant when I said USA citizens have been corrupted by decades of propaganda. Conservative idiots genuinely believe socialism is about making people eat bugs as opposed to helping people out and doing things for their betterment. And liberals genuinely believe that they are Leftists.
US liberals are generally center-right. They mean progressives.
Only if by “generally center-right” you mean solely in comparison to European concepts of right/left. Most of the world is still vaguely authoritarian and right leaning.
I mean in comparison to the global definition. Those trapped in countries right of center (like the US) are still fighting for progressivism against oligarchy
That is an incredibly euro-centric POV. Your notion of where the center lies is relative.
Nope. South America begs to differ.
Right now there’s only fascists and those that oppose them. Kicking those opposed to fascism just after they were kicked to the ground by the electorate puts you on which side of things?
If the ones kicked to the ground are the ones that did everything in their hands to give fascists the government, yes, they deserve to be kicked some more.
Hillary vs Bernie? DNC chose Hillary. Joe vs Bernie? DNC chose Joe. 7 months for the election and Biden steps down? DNC chooses Harris “with the power of my finger”. For fuck’s sake! France had 6 weeks to prepare an election and they even had time to arrange coalitions between different parties! And to dig deeper, AOC does everything she can to help Harris and they thank her by trying to kick her out and change her by a guy with cancer.
Fascism is very specifically a right wing ideology. You’re thinking of authoritarianism, which can go both ways. There is no such thing as lefty fascism.
Red fascism has been an accusation that’s been leveled by real socialists at authoritarian socialists for a century. The only problem with the term is that liberals don’t actually know what it means or how important the red part is and start harping on about horseshoes (all while ignoring all the fascism and genocide they themselves support out of convienence)
Yeah there’s some of the rationalization I’m talking about. There’s not a lot of daylight between the politics of the US and China right now. Both have authoritarian leaders that push a narrative about the need for a strongman to run the economy and protect their respective countries from the evil foreigners. Both want to expand their territory. Putin is the same, of course.
Fascism is just a scam to make people accept having an authoritarian leadership. There’s common tropes they use in their propaganda to emotionally manipulate people into supporting it. Glorious past, evil foreigners took things from us, we need a strong man (and it has to be a man because misogyny is a big part of it) to make things right. It’s all bullshit no matter where you put it on your precious spectrum. But it’s bullshit that works. And when it does work all that matters is what you do to oppose it. How you categorize it means jack shit.
“We’re all just cavemen throwing spears at the other village” is not a tremendously helpful or thought-provoking insight, no matter how much truth there is to it.
Government policy is definitely not some illusory construct no matter how poorly the public comprehends or interacts with it.
When someone is throwing a spear at you how much time do you devote to trying to categorize what ideology they’re in?
When fascism enters the picture there’s only three groups of people. Those that support it, those that oppose it, and those that do nothing. Which of these three groups are you in?
So you just watched that spear get thrown at you and then you took time deciding to categorise it as fascism. Now you’re taking a bunch of time explaining that your definition of fascism is a weirdly all-encompassing version of it that fits both left and right and ignores historians and scholars. You have new definitions for other things too that most other people are too brainwashed to understand.
Don’t really practice what you preach, do you?
I’m 14 and this is deep vibes. Do they respect human rights or not
I was wondering why my dad texted me today to tell me George Soros was planning to fund anti Trump podcasts
crazy to me that he’s thinking the guy who might be funding anti Trump podcasts is a threat and not the richest man in the world who has agents infiltrating and collecting data on every government agency. Like, is dudes tin foil hat on right?
It is amazing how fast their propaganda machines work. They will anticipate breaking stories and provide bullshit lines of reasoning to discredit them before they are even widely shared.
They’ve had decades to finely tune the propaganda machine — utilizing surveillance capitalism, big data, and analytics — A/B testing their PsyOps campaigns in real-time.
The whole Cambridge Analytica debacle occurred almost a decade ago, and every criminal involved went on to bigger and better criminal enterprises. Major political parties across western “democracies” were directly involved in treasonous disinformation campaigns against their own citizens — a multinational corporate oligarchy were directly involved — that’s why there were zero consequences…
We’ve already been living in corporate dictatorships for a long time. We just didn’t know it yet.
We’ve already been living in corporate dictatorships for a long time. We just didn’t know it yet.
Can’t really overstate that.
Everything you say is true. You can also trace this form of psychological warfare back to WWII. Propaganda got a real bad rap because of how it was used to manipulate people around the world. It was repackaged and renamed as public relations.
This should have been the tipping point of governments rejecting propaganda and protecting their citizens from its effects. Instead they decided to use the best of psychology and sociology to continue to manipulate people. This is a basic violation of human rights so egregious that any government that allows it has betrayed its own people.
Sad to say, but it’s likely some of this bump they’re getting is TYT listeners/viewers leaving after Cenk and Anna’s latest spar with literally everyone near their orbit (and even losing some contributors). Many -oh so many- disaffected MSNBC viewers turned to non-traditional media after 2016, I cannot imagine how many might be leaving for more actually progressive sources after the recent election… but TYT has fumbled the bag here by both attacking other progressives AND doing shit like Charlie Kirk “debates” and interviews with Tucker Carlson.
I really hope they turn the ship around, because going after MAGA die hards isn’t the answer. At any rate, Majority Report seems to be doing just fine so there’s that.
TYT telling the trans woman on staff that “Ana knows better than she does about how to help the trans community” was the final straw for me. You don’t get to silence a minority group by saying you’re doing it for their benefit.
The subsequent doubling down of “actually we’re the victims here!” was just confirmation.
I don’t know these people but even just reading that already made me so tired. I’m so ready for everybody to forget we exist again.
2020-2030 is really making 2000-2010 seem like paradise out here, which is something I never thought I’d say, as a trans woman who barely survived 2000-2010. 🙃
Effing preach!!!
Tyt???
The young Turks. Center right
Yep. It’s been a whole thing on the YouTube political drama channels and in like Dem Leaning progressive spaces.
TYT went full grifter mode but way too obvious.
Welcome to Polymarket Studios!
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by both attacking other progressives AND doing shit like Charlie Kirk “debates” and interviews with Tucker Carlson.
I’m sorry, they did what!? You must be kidding. I never felt the vibe was right with them: old, weird freaks asking for donations the whole show. But this is on another level…
I wish I was kidding… here’s Cenk being given a (mostly) kid gloves “debate” with Francesca. She’s since left TYT over Cenk’s embrace of MAGA and Anna’s embrace of TERF talking points.
According to Podscribe.
Which collects data from more than the single-source Spotify.Ugh Ben Shapiro is that high?
Candace Owens is higher…
Wait a minute … THIS IS THE BAD PLACE!
@WhatAmLemmy figured it out? @WhatAmLemmy?
Yeah, this is a low point! This one hurts!
Made me audibly laugh in my head
candace dick fit in my ass
For me it’s the recent percentage in increased subscribers. Is Ben Shapiro better/worse than Rogan? Isn’t he branded as a more “intellectual” to those who listen to both? F.
Shapiro is far better educated and informed than Rogan. He’s more of traditional conservative, who only begrudgingly supports Trump. Of course he’s still a propagandist and a liar.
Podcasts are thinking for people who can’t read.
I’m making a rather cruel joke, but I do find some friends who struggle (lazy / busy, I’m not sure why) to read a news article I might share with them and, who will share with me some 20 sec Instagram clip with the words flashing up with Peterson or Rogan “slamming”, “owning”, “destroying” the libs. A quick Google usually dispels the quote or shows that the subject is not so simple.
I should also add I do listen to podcasts and radio and there’s nothing wrong with both.
Broke: Joe Rogan pwning the libs
Woke: TrueAnon pwning the libs
I don’t have time to read…I’d love to but I can’t. Gotta mortgage slave and take care of/support a crotch goblin
I’m these people. Probably read like 7 books in my life but dozens of audio books 🤣. I get distracted while reading a book. Can crush audio books when I’m cleaning or driving though.
Audiobooks count. You’re still getting exposed to the same, long, fleshed-out ideas in story form.
How the fuck did Klandace get such a boost?
By having a black female, the right can point to a single source when accused of being either racist or misogynist. No longer do they need to remember two separate podcasts to affirm they are neither racist nor misogynistic. That leaves them much more time to beat off to JRE and his clones and lesser offspring.
Probably by buying subscribers like Shapiro did. Pump the numbers up, get a boost for the algo, get more clicks.
That shaved ape moron Dan Bongino is that high? Times is bleak
Meh. Dumb voters will just flock to the next trigger topic.
Listen. It’s not just dumb voters. It’s a conservative propaganda vessel that funds any right-leaning talking points. It’s madness being poured into any willing ear, all it takes is a little fear to let them in. I want to believe that individual volition trumps this by-the-numbers propaganda, but the proof is in the pudding. Make people scared and isolated and you can make them believe whatever shit you want (at least, on a macro scale)
Totally. I know plenty of people who would be considered smart by any standard, but when you’re mainlining propaganda every hour, of every day, for multiple decades… it’ll twist a person.
And it’s everywhere!
Don’t trust the mainstream media they say, but these days Facebook, YouTube, instagram, etc have billions of users worldwide. Those are mainstream media.
So in a way they’re right, but they seem to think Facebook and YouTube are some hot new thing and they can be trusted because they’re not part of “the establishment” or whatever. Those of us who were around since the beginning saw the decline from cat-video-sharing-platform to propaganda outlet. Hopefully more people start realizing it.
100%.
When I think about it for a while, my thoughts always come back to “What is truth? What is a fact? Why do I think my news consumption is more factual than this person’s news consumption?”
I’m not a philosopher, and I think it’s a tricky question to answer. I’ve found myself on the Stanford Philosophy Wiki. There’s a ton of good stuff in there.
Of course, on a practical level, you’re rarely going to be debating “what is a fact?” when you’re arguing with your MAGA relations. My “normal” answer is that I try to get my news from sources that have reputations for fact-checking / rigor (AP / Reuters etc etc).
However, if you’ve spent all your time consuming Fox / Newsmax / AM Radio in the late 90s / aughts, your mental model of AP / Reuters is not my mental model. Anything outside of your right-wing bubble is to be shinned. To you, AP and Reuters do not have a reputation for rigor. They’re part of a liberal conspiracy funded by the government and George Soros to demonize conservatives / brainwash the libs.
It’s a tricky problem. I feel like we’re in an era where the Dawn of the Internet / Social media is analogous to the advent of the printing press. We just don’t know how to handle the firehose of information.
There’s a huge part of me that thinks that recommendation algorithms need to be regulated.
Honestly, where it really breaks down for me is how they constantly portray other people as villains and tell you what their beliefs are.
There is no problem with gay rapists, immigrant murderers, trans baby-eaters, etc etc. No more than any other segment of society anyway.
I was taught not to always believe what others say about… others. If you want to know where someone stands, talk to them, don’t take a 3rd party’s word for it.
Although that doesn’t apply to people who confirmed super-liars.
You make a really excellent point.
Something similar is playing out with DOGE finding “waste” and “fraud.” Very little in the say if of evidence, much in the way of waving around papers at a press conference / shitposting on Twitter and screeching “Woke DEI spending has been slashed.”
Tbh, I get it. I understand why it works. Most people aren’t political junkies. Most people don’t really follow the news. They’re busy just trying to get through their day.
That said, I read a good comment once- “You might not care about politics, but politics cares about you.” I only wish more people understood that. Unfortunately, our economic system works against it.
Random aside, I wish we had strong labor unions in the US. They’d be very beneficial at this time.
It’s not only true for the right. The left has its own problems with propaganda, dogmatism, and fake news. Some of it resulting directly from trying to counter the effectiveness of the right wing. Extreme polarization is the outcome and discourse becomes impossible.
Change conservative to liberal, right leaning to Democrat and you’ve just described MeidasTouch. They’re nothing but mouthpieces for the DNC. The way that people like Rogan were mouthpieces for the RNC.
You’re not wrong but any cultural shift like this is enough to cling to optimism. If/when the fast food catches up to Trump and he croaks JD Vance will be the one trying to defend these trash policies. Him (or anybody else) are not going to be as effective bullshit artists…
LOOK HOW DESPERATE I AM FOR GOOD NEWS. LET ME HAVE THIS!!!
The Republicans aren’t looking for leadership or ideas, they’re looking for a strong man who beats his chest at “Soy boy rivals”
Vance… aint that guy
womp womp, isnt that what the right wingers say… Only they originally said it about a story about seperating an “illegal imigrant” 10 year old girl with downs syndrome from her parents and keeping her in a cage, if I recall correctly. And then they refused to apologize for it.
Not only that, but they very much acted like they were the ones who were owed an apology
Any nothing of value was created or destroyed.
What kind of cherry picked chart is this? Certainly this chart is not one that features YouTube or spotify. MeidasTouch is great and all but they aren’t even in the same league as Rogan in terms of listeners.
Hmm, one success speaks more to that one podcast’s popularity than a political shift.
