I don’t consider it an ally of the American people, either.
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It’s too bad that the sensible areas of US are on both sides of the continent. Would make a split much simpler if they were closer together.
Maybe France will end up liberating the North American continent once again. 😉
You could find an area with an “oppressed” French minority, and start by stirring an uprising in there. Once the pot begins to boil, try adding some French commando forces in disguise.
They could start in la Louisiane and Orléans, and teach you how to pronounce these names correctly
Louisiana is French.
La Louisiane*
I am talking the blue part, which is not part of Canada.
So am I. The correct name for the region in blue is “La Louisiane”, which got morphed into “louisiana” in the USA somehow.
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Good post.
Really? Did you report it because it was removed right after your comment. Why? I only said France should send a new gift to go along with the statue of liberty.
Does everyone know which equipment was most associated with France’s revolution?
It was removed before I replied, I looked into the comment moderation history to read it.
🍿🎵 Luckily my instance isn’t sensitive about this sort of thing. 🍿🎵
Oh, I see. Seems kinda crappy to remove it just because I said a guillotine should be presented as a gift. I didn’t say anyone should use it. I mean, I was gifted a knife for my birthday, am I not allowed to mention it?
I think it would be a fantastic gift.
For 53% of American people, the United States is no longer an ally of US.
The time to express that was 4 months ago. Now you can only buy a leopard-proof mask and pray.
It’s a way higher number than that. Women, GSM, anyone not white, Muslims, disabled people, elderly people, children, students, immigrants, non-fluent English speakers, and of course, anyone outspoken against the regime.
You say anyone not white but I an pretty sure lotta non white folk voted for the cheeto man
And women.
What’s the Groupe Spéciale Mobile got to do with anything?
Lol lots of assumptions being made here.
Time for take-backsies on the Louisiana Purchase. Also the Statue of Liberty.
The other 27% must not read the news, eh?
Even if you believe the US is an ally to whatever country you’re from (outside of Russia, of course), he’s proven to be untrustworthy and unreliable.
27% hoping the US is just going through a phase
That was an understandable reaction for 2016 to 2020. But not anymore.
It still could be a phase, albeit a much longer one than originally hoped for. I’m not convinced that’s the case but I think there’s reason to have at least a sliver of hope that the US will turn the corner and return to something approaching sanity. That’s not to say that the people of France are wrong in their perception though. For the foreseeable future all of Europe should default to assuming we’ll be ambivalent at best when approaching matters that concern them.
Sure, I agree with you. Although I have to say that personally, I believe the US isn’t coming back from this any time soon, if ever. I say this because in my opinion the causes that led to the (repeated) Trump presidency (e.g. a terrible election system, money in politics, a culture of turning everything into a show, a deeply ingrained skepticism towards knowledge and science in large parts of the population, extremist capitalism etc.) go much deeper than just these past ~10 years. And I see no willingness and/or capability on the side of the opposition to really tackle any of these factors at the root.
“Name one country where socialism has worked.” The United States, 1955, when corporate wealth tax was 90% and gave birth to a thing called the middle-class where a milkmans salary could afford a house and family.
I assume the 27% are mostly fans of Marine Le Pen and they quite like Donald Trump.
Nah. Some European fascists are anti-US too. Just not their main parties
The other 27% are fascists too.
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France should take the Statue of Liberty back. The US gov will probably replace it anyway, by one of Donald having is golden balls sucked by a sexy eagle while driving a cybertruck, or something.
France has always been a bit different. They left NATO for a bit to push back against the US/UK dominance and they developed an independent nuclear deterrent and delivery systems. They are a shit country in many ways, probably more like the US than they realise. They held onto colonialism for too long, have a stupid political system and their police and security services have done some shitty things. But hard not to admire their independence even if some of their motivations for independence (eg maintaining colonial possessions) might have been suspect.
Many countries caved to the US and became client states, heavily reliant on US defence industry and an extension of the US military, not because we were free loaders as Trump claims but because the US pushed their interests so hard and for so long. We cancelled our own weapons programs and shuttered our factories to support US jobs ahead of our own. Most of us are so dependent on the US it has been hard to conceive of a world without them. Being against the US alliance was basically equivalent to being against national security and being a fool or a supporter of potential enemies.
Trump is breaking people’s world view. The French leadership were decades ahead of the rest of us.
A small correction, France never left NATO completely. They left a lot of the joint command structures and stopped hosting NATO’s HQ in Paris, but they never cancelled the treaty or anything like that
Yes. It is an important distinction. I should have been more clear.
The French people are amazing! They actually fight against oppression. Look up the gilets jaunes movement. The media barely covered it but they protest loudly, disruptively and even violently, looting etc. French descent people tend to do the same, eg the student fees protests in Montreal, in which the students won!!
In this brave new world, we are all Gaullists.
The French:
Ever since those fuckers voted for the insane right wing populist lunatic, they are no longer a reliable ally!!
Also the French:
Yay, Le Pen!
Thats the 73%/23% split explained.
73%/23%
Someone can’t maths!
I am math
Oups
This is the only scrap of dignity I have left in my people, the fact that Russian propaganda works just as well on the French, who at their laziest could teach us a thing or two about measured responses to unwelcome politics.
Only? Probably for the remaining 27% it never was…
That’s crazy to me that America has changed so much that a nation they freed from Nazi control cannot consider the USA an ally any more because of the fascist ideology the trump administration is showing to the world. This all happened in like 2 months time. This is just the beginning and I don’t see things getting better at all.
It’s so much worse for the US
France was our first ally. After the revolutionary war, France was the first to recognize us as a country.
They were the first NATO nation to join us in the global war on terror after we invoked Article 5.
Make all the “France surrendered” jokes you want but they have given more to us than we have given them, diplomatically speaking.
Trump is just giving every ally we have a huge middle finger that will take decades to overcome. All so that Trump can feel like a big man.
Make all the “France surrendered” jokes you want
It’s so weird to me that France has been a military force that has oscillated between a force to be reckoned with and the most powerful land force in the world since the 17th century, but you lose one war to a blitzkrieg with an overconfident military leadership…
the most powerful land force in the world since the 17th century
Franco-Prussian War with France being beaten in a bit over half a year…
How does the Foreign Legion fit into this? I honestly don’t know much about how they’re connected to France. But, what I do know about them is that they’re badasses.
It’s not just two months.
Second gulf war, France and Germany not joining in although our soldiers were dying in Afghanistan after the US declared Article 5. US government “that is old Europe, they don’t matter”. US people “we should bomb Germany back into the stone age”. That’s when my generation became anti-US.
What they are doing to Canada is just straight up absurd but it makes sense if you think of this as a Woke vs Non-woke war not capitalism vs communism or west vs east, Jon nails it as usual:
Jon Stewart on Trump’s Heel Turn on Zelenskyy In Favor of Putin’s New World Order https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeUZI5RnYGg
That feeling has been reflected in recent polls here in the UK too and I think the US might be finally blowing it with its ‘allies’.
I hope that the Trump administration can get all its core industries up and running because there is a big sense that the US empire is on its way out now. It was always bound to happen eventually because it always does but I was not expecting to see it unravel so fast and so soon.
Perhaps the US population can resolve (or dissolve) its internal divisions and conflict but I think it will take years and Europe has urgent problems that need tackling right away.
‘allies’
these single quotes are doing some heavy lifting!
I can’t blame them. I wouldn’t want to be an ally with the U.S. either.
China is more trustworthy than the US right now
The Chinese regime also lies through their teeth, but they are a known and rational actor.
A backstabbing, erratic „ally“ is worse of course.
If they’d be willing renounce their claims to Taiwan and allow democracy in Hong Kong and Macau, maybe I could see that. Until then, same shit in more outwardly rational packaging.
The US is no less imperialistic than China. At least China is stable and predictable.
Actually, yes. Stability-loving nationalist autocrats vs. instability-loving nationalist autocrats.
Thankfully, the real democracies don’t really need to choose one or the other, as long as we stick together.
I know it’s hard to accept it as an American. But here we are
