• EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de
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      but how do the forces behind the infinity stones determine who gets dusted? In some places is was all except one person in a large group of people dusted and only sometimes was it half of the population of an area.

      That means that part of what was dusted away must’ve been micro-organisms like bacteria in people’s guts.

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      But it’s not random. Not fair. Not balanced. Entire civilizations of gut bacteria wiped out! To them it was like he wiped out entire planets instead of life forms!

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        If you wipe out the people you wipe out the biome. You just want more than 50% killed.

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          I mean Thanos stick was that it was random and dispassionate, and thus morally not biased towards specific values or ideals. Well except for the individual gut bacteria.

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    Bacteria multiply crazy fast… as long as the food source was uninterrupted I’d almost guarantee you most people’s microbiome would be fully recovered in just a few hours and they’d not even notice.

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      Yeah 50% loss isn’t servere at all for gut biome loss. If you’ve ever been on antibiotics you’ve likely experienced that or worse.

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        I think is depends on which micro-organisms get destroyed.

        The snap didn’t always kill 50% of the people in an area. Sometimes it was just one or two people out of dozens and other times it was all except one person in an area.

        How do the forces behind the infinity stones classify and quantify different micro-organisms? would it treat the good kinds and bad kinds equally? Would it distinguish between different kinds of micro-life at all?

        I said this farther up in the thread, but in some places the infinity stones killed all except one person in an area full of people, and in other places it was just one or two people that got dusted out of dozens. What if it’s a situation like that inside of people’s gut biomes? Like some people getting all their good bacteria killed and some people only getting their bad bacteria killed?

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        And the big thing that fucks people up is not only the high loss but also the antibiotics slowing or stopping additional reproduction. That keeps the population depressed for an extended period and then you get the shits.

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      Depends on the micro-biome actually. An expert chef that’s always taste-testing new things would have a very healthy micro-biome, but a lot of autistic people that only like eating a very short list of things would have their micro-biomes wrecked really bad

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      How long can gut microbiomes survive after the host is dead? Wouldn’t a dead host essentially mean near 100% fatality for the gut microbiome meaning that anybody killed by a Thanos snap would also mean a 100% kill rate of their gut bacteria, leaving any survivors to basically keep all 100% of their gut bacteria?

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        Well the implication in-universe is that the actual snap was killing 50% of all life, not any death afterwards. If we’re counting bacterial life as individual living beings in this 50%, then it shouldn’t matter whether the host itself got snapped or not, since the bacteria are “separate” and would be left behind after a snap…

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          Does this mean that for every human that disappeared there should have been massive piles of bacteria and shit left where they were last standing

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            Even better, your microbiome covers your entire body (anything exposed to air) and into any organs that are part of the waste processing system.

            So briefly after the snap you would see a vague outline of the creature, with a well defined digestive tract (mouth to anus), eyes, nose, ears, sinus system, and bladder. Because bacteria, viruses, and fungi are all quite small, the cluster of gut organisms would probably fall, and the rest would drift away. Imagine being in a crowded space and just breathing in all those bacteria, viruses, and fungi… 🤮 I bet a lot of people would die from infections.

            If the creature had any parasitic infections, like a tapeworm, that could also be left behind.

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    Snapping half the life forms also snaps half of the world’s gut bacteria. If we removed half of the gut bacteria from those who weren’t snapped, that would be removing 75% of the universe’s gut bacteria, not 50%.

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      Not if 50% of the gut bacteria of the people who got snapped just like fell to the ground, or got stuck to that dusty shit.

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        Why assume that though? The Infinity Gauntlet isn’t a Monkey’s Paw, it reads beyond the words and answers the intent of the wielder. So much so, in fact, that it even includes subconscious thoughts and feelings as part of its interpretation. I see often these ideas predicated on the Gauntlet working on Monkey Paw logic despite that being clearly and specifically not how it operates within canon.

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          Yeah, we gotta remember the gauntlet includes the mind stone and the soul stone. Things smarter than just simply granting wishes, as you said.

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          Yeah, the Gauntlet wouldn’t leave anything that can’t survive on its own, like gut bacteria, nor remove anything that’s needed for the proper functioning of another lifeform. It’s why there weren’t any fetuses falling to the ground after the pregnant women vanished.

          I would assume that conjoined twins would be a both-or-neither situation, since removing one would leave a gaping wound in the other even if they could have survived independently with surgery,

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            50% of what Thanos considers life since it was powered by his will. Since he seemed to imply that nature (plants and animals) where not part of this it’s safe to assume it was sapient life only.

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      Wait. If that is how it happened that means when half the population came back they all came back with 0% of their gut bacteria. Holy shit that would be horrible. The population doubles overnight and every single person and animal has the worse runs of their life. Meanwhile they can’t get the nutritional needs no matter how much food they eat. Spend the next few months while their family cries as they wither away surrounded by food.

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        No, the desired effects was to undo Thanos’s snap, not double the human population. This means that all of the gut bacteria got unsnapped exactly the same as everyone else

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        Imagine the famine if the next day the world population doubled. Considering that the agricultural production was also reduced

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          Don’t worry, the litter of bodies from people that were on planes or high speed trains, or on ships will provide nutrients for the starving masses.
          Then suicides and murders as people return to find their loved ones remarried or dead because they committed suicide, should also provide another nutritional bump in the following weeks.
          Then the following World War should deal with everyone else.

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          This is one of the many reasons why I say Tony Stark is a bigger villain to the universe than Thanos.

          A sudden LACK of mouths is much more favorable than suddenly DOUBLING them.

          I order to keep his family alive, he just brings them all back, many years out of place in a universe completely and totally unprepared for their arrival. Not to mention all the people who died AFTER the snap, as a direct result of the snap, will still be dead.

          Tony stark is supposed to be smart. So he should know the consequences of his action, and completely disregards it.

          And the series pretends he did the universe a favor.

          Fuck Tony stark.

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      I felt like I needed one this morning. Instead I got the longest turd I’ve ever seen. It hit the water before it left my arse.

  • So what you’re saying is, the “Up the Thanos” strategy could have worked if Antman simply flew up there while Thanos was emptying his bowels due to the changes to his gut biome. The only difficulty would be swimming up the stream of liquid shit ejecting out at high speeds.