• azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      11 minutes ago

      I really wish they replaced KIO with something new or make it actually mount network shares similar to gvfs, this is ridiculous it’s still like that after all those years

    • Xylight‮@lemdro.idEnglish
      2·
      3 hours ago

      Gnome seems to have amnesia whenever using sftp. disconnect once? say goodbye to ALL of your bookmarked network folders even after reconnecting.

  • sqauffle@slrpnk.net
    5·
    7 hours ago

    I definitely prefer MacOS-style desktop design, so I lean in favor of Gnome. I often use Ubuntu solely because their take on Gnome is super clean and attractive to me.

    The dash. What the fuck? It would be a cool option, but I like the dock, and the extension for that doesn’t work properly for me.

    If you’re gonna rip off MacOS then rip it off.

  • too_high_for_this@lemmy.world
    9·
    9 hours ago

    Another reason why Linux fanboys are so silly.

    It’s just whether you grew up / are more comfortable using Windows or Mac.

    I grew up on Mac OS. My first laptop was the classic translucent blue clamshell iBook running OS X Cheetah. So when I first tried Linux, I used Gnome.

    I switched to Windows when I got into gaming. But then when I got a Steam Deck, I decided to finally make the change. So now I’m much more comfortable using KDE.

    QED.

    • guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vipEnglish
      5·
      5 hours ago

      Idk how true that is, I grew up using exclusively macOS for 15 years, then I got my own pc with windows on it and used it for a few years before switching to Linux, KDE is easily my favorite

    • anyhow2503@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 hours ago

      Icons on the desktop is a non-feature for most gnome users. Even my Windows desktop has been empty since XP released. If you really want desktop icons then using an extension for that should be fine, but it’s silly to frame this as a failing of the “Gnome people” just because Gnome doesn’t replicate the classic Windows desktop experience.

      • elucubra@sopuli.xyz
        3·
        1 hour ago

        I have icons on my desktop, icons in my taskbar, and of course the menu. taskbar, always there, one click, boom! second tier apps, desktop, less used stuff, open menu.

        I use KDE BTW

    • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.mlEnglish
      44·
      10 hours ago

      There’s an extension that lets you do that. Once a week it breaks and makes icons appear over other windows.

  • trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world
    421·
    13 hours ago

    I really don’t want online accounts integration in my DE though. I must admit that I fail to see what good that could do.

    • woelkchen@lemmy.world
      31·
      13 hours ago

      I must admit that I fail to see what good that could do.

      In theory the one place where you can enter your Nextcloud or whatever credentials and syncing for calendar, mails, file storage ect. happens automatically everywhere after confirming which services should connect.

      It’s not my personal must have feature but when it works, it’s alright.

  • esc@piefed.socialEnglish
    965·
    15 hours ago

    Is it really most popular?

    It’s not more stable than plasma surely, at least when user does any customization.

    Simplicity is questionable, unless simple means ‘unlearn everything and do it our way’.

    • placebo@lemmy.zipEnglish
      21·
      4 hours ago

      and do it our way

      Or don’t do it at all because gnome can’t do that.

    • Eldritch@piefed.worldEnglish
      69·
      15 hours ago

      For a long time it was. KDE kind of exploded themselves back around version 4. GNOME made huge inroads while the KDE Dev team’s got their shit sorted. Main DE to the flagship general user distribution etc. It’s just a fact. And not gonna lie I still have fond memories of GNOME 2.

      But the KDE team really put their time in and cooked. It isn’t perfect. But the over all polish shows. Not to mention its been snowballing lately. I have my whole family on plasma 6 right now. It’s familiar as it needs to be, stable and mostly intuitive. It’s just so good. In fact my only gripe right now is a niche Wayland issue and not DE related.

      • tmpod@lemmy.pt
        10·
        11 hours ago

        The recent evolution is great and I’ve been a happy KDE user for many years, but my oh my is NetworkManager bad. It’s not good on all systems that use it under the hood, but I find it especially unintuitive and so outdated. The applet thing is fine (still suffers from weird behaviour from NM’s core), but actual settings screen drives me crazy… The Bluetooth one should also receive some love, but it’s decent. NM needs serious revision.

        • Eldritch@piefed.worldEnglish
          3·
          6 hours ago

          Yes. There’s definitely some UX jank in there. I saw something the other day at least about a new unified UX framework to replace the multiple ones they have now. Which hopefully should lead to much more consistency across applications and hopefully some updates and rewrites that will be better.

      • boraginoru@lemmy.zip
        14·
        14 hours ago

        I just randomly tried KDE recently and made the swap from Linux Mint to Kubuntu a week ago. Definitely agree on the polish factor, everything just feels great with KDE and I’ve been pretty happy

      • esc@piefed.socialEnglish
        7·
        15 hours ago

        Meh, plasma was stable enough by 4.4 (when I’ve switched from gnome 2), there were some problems, but gnome 3 released about that time wasn’t any better. I’m not sure about popularity of gnome, it was repeated a lot but personally I’ve met one person to this day that used vanilla gnome 3/4/5/50 not representative of course but it’s just weird that supposedly everyone is running it yet among the category of people that linux is most popular with it doesn’t show.

        • Buffalox@lemmy.world
          14·
          14 hours ago

          Gnome lost a lot of popularity with Gnome shell, and for good reason. Gnome made the same mistake Microsoft did with Windows 8, which was also universally hated. By the same mistake I mean they changed EVERYTHING!

          • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
            122·
            14 hours ago

            And unlike Windows, they didn’t backtrack on it. Instead, they doubled down and said, “You’ll use your computer our way, and you’ll like it!”

            IMO, the whole interface is a mess. It’s designed as if it’s supposed to be a tablet/moblie first DE, but the actual tablet/mobile features (like on-screen keyboard) are kind of crap. Everything about it seems to be designed with aesthetics first, functionality last.

        • Eldritch@piefed.worldEnglish
          4·
          14 hours ago

          Sure. But the first few releases unfortunately weren’t. And you gotta be conscious of projecting your experiences onto others. I mean I sure do lol. Techy people don’t mind experimenting and putting in a bit of work. But the normie’s do. For nearly a decade Ubuntu and GNOME was what was recommended/used.

          Oh sure, there’s kubuntu which isn’t their flagship or similarly supported. So you would run into edge cases and lack of polish on the distro side. There was so much inertia for a while most major distros flagship was GNOME out of the box. Even if KDE, Mate, Budgie, or Cinnamon were avalible from repos or community maintained forks. Your vanilla user was always going to go with the defaults.

          I didn’t like it and haven’t touched gnome in years and Ubuntu even longer. But I’m definitely not a Normy.

          • naeap@sopuli.xyz
            2·
            10 hours ago

            Ah, right, Ubuntu uses gnome
            I’m still stuck with unity in my head, because their gnome got modified to look that way - at least it was quite a few years ago, when I used it somewhere

            I also thought, that currently KDE is more popular

            • Eldritch@piefed.worldEnglish
              3·
              6 hours ago

              It’s picking up steam and could easily go that way. The GNOME team with their inflexibility is pushing many away. They even got pop to start their own DE. Because they were tired of writing addons that would break every few releases.

    • warmaster@lemmy.world
      3·
      10 hours ago

      Forget opinions, just look at the most popular distros, which one do they ship with by default?

      I prefer Gnome’s UX/UI, but I use KDE because they are faster to implement gaming related stuff.

      • esc@piefed.socialEnglish
        1·
        2 hours ago

        I’m not sure which are the most popular distros. Mint, Fedora, some arch derivative of the day?

    • adarza@lemmy.caEnglish
      20·
      15 hours ago

      yea, gnome is “more popular”. doesn’t mean it’s “better”, just that it’s the default environment for some of the most widely-used distributions.

      • woelkchen@lemmy.world
        2·
        13 hours ago

        yea, gnome is “more popular”. doesn’t mean it’s “better”, just that it’s the default environment for some of the most widely-used distributions.

        But not SteamOS which has the numbers on its side. Not that Gnome is unpopular but Steam Deck single-handedly pulled in millions of users who at least occasionally switch from game mode to desktop mode (=Plasma) to install emulators and stuff.

          • woelkchen@lemmy.world
            1·
            12 hours ago

            I’m not sure there are more Steam OS installs than RHEL/SUSE/Ubuntu installs.

            Of course not, if you phrase it like that. According to your phrasing non-desktop container setups also count but they don’t.

            Distributions like Ubuntu also ship Plasma. The preconfigured disk image is called Kubuntu but that’s still Ubuntu and counts as that in Steam’s surveys which I consider the most reliable source of what actual GUI Linux users actually use.

            • Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world
              2·
              12 hours ago

              Couple things there are many computer users that don’t play games like for example me.

              Enterprise Linux is not the same as a container and Gnome is flagship for all three of those enterprise flavors.