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  • Malkhodr @lemmygrad.ml
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    Opinion of MES — Any Gulf Arab cursing Iran for its attacks sincerely needs to find a brain

    Iran is attacking countries like Kuwait, Bahrain, etc. because they house American bases on their territory and because Iran is getting DIRECTLY bombed from these countries by ground-to-ground missiles.

    These people should thank Iran for its restraint. Do you know that most Patriot missiles are not fired from U.S. positions, but from Bahraini Army and Kuwaiti Army bases? In other words, Iran has chosen not to hit one of its primary objectives—missile defense systems—out of fear that Arab soldiers may be harmed in the process.

    Count your blessings, because if this war continues, one day this calculation will also change. Arabs and fellow Muslims will unfortunately die due to the stupidity of your own governments. I hope it doesn’t get to that point, but the responsibility lies with your American and Zionist-loving rulers.

    @Middle_East_Spectator

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    My View

    I agree with this assessment. Although I’ve argued against targeting any Gulf Arab civilian infrastructure beyond oil infrastructure (if you could call it purely civillian, I’d argue not) I think GCC military bases are valid targets. If they are gonna strike Iran on behalf of the US, then they are involved in the war, and therefore should not be surprised if they are hit back. That being said, I understand why Iran doesn’t do so. The day after this war, amd the expunging of imperialists from the region, the Gulf Arab people will remain. Fostering good relations and increasing regional economic development is the next step towards decolonization. The multipolar world is emerging on front of our eyes, and a semi-united West Asia would be able to facilitate global development very effectively due to their geophraphic distance from all other poles within the eastern hemisphere.

    • Razia (She/Her)@lemmygrad.ml
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      It’s easy to get frustrated with Iran’s restraint and want them to do more, and at times arguably it hasn’t served Iran’s interests well, but I would say that much more often than not, diplomatically, economically, militarily that restraint has greatly strengthened Iran’s position.

      As you say, avoiding alienating the Arab public is the smart move, it turns them against their own rulers for standing with the US and ‘Israel’ and it creates the opportunity for a better diplomatic settlement in the future. Iran recognizes, unlike ‘Israel’ and the US, that regional and global public opinion does matter a lot actually in a variety of ways - and innocent blood is easy to spill but hard to wash out.

      • Lenin's Dumbbell @lemmygrad.ml
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        I needed to get this reality check. The people leading Iran know better than me what is best for Iran.

        Still, I hope the reformists come out weaker than ever before once a dust settles. The world is heading towards a capital crisis never seen before. There’s no place for people who still want to perpetuate capitalism because they feel like they missed out

    • Maeve @lemmygrad.ml
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      I’m pretty concerned with what’s going on with Iraq. I’m not sure if the government is making a deal with the devil for the people’s sake or if they have completely capitulated for selfish reasons, so I wait to see.