After being charged with threats to conduct a mass shooting or an act of terrorism, a judge set Boston’s bond at $100,000.
“I do find that the bond of $100,000 is appropriate considering the status of our country at this point,” the judge said.
I love living in a country that takes mass shootings and terrorism seriously!
Love there is no pretext of justice in that judge’s statement. Just straight up saying “some people at the last eyes wide shut party were really uncomfortable so you must pay”
Just straight up saying “some people at the last eyes wide shut party were really uncomfortable so you must pay”
Finally something both Republican and Democratic congresspeople can agree on.
Don’t we love common law folks? Don’t we love being ruled by Judge Kings?
Basically every mass shooter is “known to authorities” or “on their radar” and they don’t do shit.
Someone who doesn’t even own a gun says something they decide is threatening? Time to throw the book at her!
I swear the media trying to treat this with the same severity as a mass shooting (if anything they’re treating it more serious than a mass shooting. No news outlet had a talking head wearing a 3d printed 9mm pin offering thoughts and prayers) is making me lose my mind. The media is basically trying to say Luigi gives mass shooter vibes. There’s a reason there has been efforts to remove pictures of him, take down posts of his statement, and generally trying to frame him in the same vein as a school shooter.
Also more proof (as if we needed it) that the bail bond system is solely in place to keep poor people in jail and rich people out.
i absolutely think they are going to roll out the same viciousness they used to defend the zionist entity if this nascent class disturbance keeps going
Absolutely, you can already see it starting with various outlets rolling out articles on how the CEO was good actually and people like being screwed by health insurance. I have no doubt that they will crack down hard on people supporting Luigi or his actions.
It’s not like she found an executive’s number or went to an office, she literally just got mad at a service rep over the phone. If someone actually attempts/succeeds in a copycat assassination the response is going to be 1000x worse
a judge
Which judge? Can we find out his name? I’m just asking questions
Headline is incorrect. There’s no evidence that’s the suspect’s catchphrase. That’s what the perpetrator wrote. Assuming that that’s also the suspect’s catchphrase is assuming he’s guilty. I don’t think this qualifies for libel but yet another example of useless journalism.
I’ve found it a bit weird how quickly people accepted that the guy they arrested must have been the shooter because they arrested him.
the casings found at the next CEO crime scene will be engraved Exculpate, Exonerate, Excuse
Which means F will be next!
‘we’ve spotted a pattern!’Frighten, Freak out, Fuck up
Fuck faround find fout
Final, Fantasy, Five
Cause they had a main character named Buttz. More like Final Fantasy Fart
HalF liFe EpiFode Free conFirmed
Yeah when I woke up I thought there was a 90% chance that Luigi did it (and in that 90% I include a 30% chance that the official story of him being snitched is false and the feds are doing parallel construction) and 10% chance that this is just a convenient patsy they found to pin it on someone. But the more I think about it, the more that 10% grows to, like, 20%.
He’s got patsy energy for sure. It’s the not ditching the gun thing that’s really bothering me
, I’ve never even been there and I’m absolutely confident I could dissappear a gun in NYC. Toss it in the river or any random storm drain and they’d have to sift through a big pile of other guns. Seems like something you’d only do if you wanted to get caught, but if that were the case you’d probably confess. Regardless I see absolutely no advantage to us for this guy to be seen as already guilty in the public eye, if he wasn’t hot it would probably have helped. Now people want it to be him.Oh I think if it was him, the gun is 100% planted still. But I find it somewhat as likely that it wasn’t him, because why would an assassin who took as many precautions as they did, only travel 1 state away?
The tune changed from ‘this guy may have been a pro’ to ‘guy they found at an icky dees with all the evidence needed to arrest on him one state over almost a full week later’. Also I default to not trusting the cops and feds when there’s any doubt at all as to the guilt of someone arrested as well as the fact that I really hope the real killer is still out there. Best twist would be Luigi is intentionally taking the heat. If that’s the case I will lionize.
Lol, it’s in his blood to not collaborate with the cops. A real Italian hero
It becomes like then end of Joker but everyone is wearing the Chad Meme face as a mask
The narrative that he might have been planning to do another hit is also odd. Even if he did, why would he stash his stuff in his car instead of some hideout?
Because he was likely not in a stable mental state and didn’t plan beyond getting out of the city.
Yes cops plant evidence, yes we shouldn’t take them at their word, but if we’re gonna criticize the surveillance state for only doing it’s job to protect capital, shouldn’t we also accept that it can do it’s job very well in these situations?
You’re missing my point entirely. I believe that if this really was the guy, then that gun must have been planted because the FBI must have used illegal methods to track him down (this is parallel construction, using illegal methods to build a case that can then be laundered via convenient stories like the McD’s snitch) and just planted the gun to seal the deal.
What should be illegal and what is actually illegal under the Patriot Act and Five Eyes are vastly different things.
Just because the methods used to track him infringe on our privacy and rights doesn’t mean the weapon was necessarily planted, he could’ve been planning a second attack or simply wanted to be caught.
If it’s not planted, and this guy really did it, then I don’t think this is a matter of the cops doing their job well. If all that is true, then they didn’t catch him at all, he turned himself in.
It’s the not ditching the gun thing that’s really bothering me
That and not changing jackets. Have you seen how many jackets this man owns? You’re telling me he wouldn’t have another one in his backpack?
That’s not even his catchphrase anyway. It’s “another day, another play.” This is
but if she called them a racial slur she’d be perfectly fine
She can literally shout “I’m Adolf Hitler” and threaten to kill minorities and she’ll be fine.
Police concluded that she intended to use “the UnitedHealthcare CEO’s homicide to her advantage.”
Who does she think she is, one of the two political parties justifying bombing and invading another country?
Weird I thought there was free speech in America
I’ve known there wasn’t for a while, but I didn’t feel the visceral reality of it 'til I started doing pro-Palestine activism
Gentle reminder that you can’t hold a public sector job in Texas unless you pledge to uphold Zionism. “Land of the free” by the way.
In all fairness, that’s why lying was invented
In all fairness that only works until it doesn’t. Get arrested at such a rally? Fired for cause, violation of your pledge and barred from future employment with the state. Someone, a co-worker, a member of the public, one of the many zionist doxxing orgs screenshots your social media criticism of zionists and support for Palestine and sends it in? Believe it or not absolutely fired and barred from future employment.
This hypothetical person may also vulnerable to fraud charges in the amount of their gross wages from the date they signed the anti BDS affidavit. Every person’s risk tolerance is different of course
No, america has Free Speech™*
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Reminder, people have got jailed for ‘weaponizing the first amendment’. That was the justification used literally last year.
I like how everything is considered threats of terrorism
it’s because of the implication
Which is weird because they didn’t even charge the person they suspect of coming up with the catchphrase with terrorism, they charged him with second degree murder.
How is it a threat of terrorism to refer to a crime that was not considered terrorism?
Wait I’ve been busy… they only charged him with second degree? Not first? That seems kinda hilariously cowardly by NYC. Surely they aren’t scared a jury won’t convict for first degree?
I looked up why they don’t charge for first degree. It seems odd, but I assume Forbes isn’t just making it up
WHY WASN’T MANGIONE CHARGED WITH FIRST DEGREE MURDER?
Mangione was charged with second degree murder—despite allegedly straightforwardly shooting Thompson—because New York’s first degree murder law only applies in specific instances, none of which would apply here. The first degree murder law applies in cases where the victim is someone specific like a police officer, peace officer, first responder or state correctional facility employee, or in cases like killing someone as part of an act of terrorism or killing a witness to a crime to prevent their testimony. The first degree murder charge would also apply in cases of “contract killers” who enter into agreements to commit the crime in exchange for money or something else of value.
Basically it’s gotta be like almost a murder against the intuitions of the state to get first degree. I am kinda surprised they aren’t pushing for calling him a terrorist though.
Also the charges for the gun stuff are absolutely insane (the YEARS of prison as punishment is what I mean. Not like oh anyone should just have suppressed handguns all the time). I’m relatively certain the gun he used is legal except the suppressor. I haven’t looked into Gun Law ™️ in a long time though. But people used to jerk off about making their own AR15s at home which was (is?) fully legal. It might be different for handguns… although one would be correct to ask “so making a smaller caliber, shittier gun is illegal but a higher caliber, higher capacity to kill weapon like a rifle is fine???” Welcome to 'murica. Here’s your gun. Aaaannnnd you committed a crime. Oops! Such a stupid country
Land of the free
Leave us dead in the street to be the organ donors
They disorganized my people, made us all loners
Still got the last names of our slave owners
In the land of the free, it’s for the free loaders
(Free loaders being the bourgeoisie)
Can’t even engage in free speech anymore
YOU CAN’T SAY THOSE WORDS ANYMORE CITIZEN
Well, congrats to this lady because she just got probably at least a million dollar auto-win suit against the police or city for false arrest and the company for lying to get her arrested. There is no way in Jebus’s holy asshole that saying those words can be taken as a legally actionable threat. Hopefully she’s talking to one of the big defamation lawyers like the one who got Alex Jones and is currently digging inside Elon’s ass. There’s another digging in Crowder’s ass too. One of them would probably love to sue a health insurance corporation right now especially over some easy win shit like this. Just really drag their asses publicly. Or get a fat settlement. Whatever.
It is interesting to see this here, I’m used to seeing everyone being to jaded to believe in the rule of law. I think pretty much everyone I am used to interacting with believes that it is purely a downward pressure
if she ends up getting a settlment it’ll be a tiny drop compared to industry profits. round-off errors like that are acceptable losses if it maintains the pretense of a system that’s essentially benign for everyone.
no different then hush money yeah, they can afford it like paying a fine for the child slavery
I’m not sure why people would think this type of legal action is no longer possible. I understand the inclination to thinking it if someone doesn’t really think that much about it though.
Let me explain my thinking. If we’re looking at like “The breakdown of rules, laws, and norms” in the US or adjacent to the US, there’s definitely been some of that in the past ~10 years (just to put some timeline for analysis). For example, the total ignoring and pressures put on the ICC. Trump actually being charged (although that’s unique for the opposite reason) but then totally getting away with everything he clearly did (well, back to the norms there…). CEOs have effectively never been held really accountable. So no change there. Monopolies used to sometimes be broken up. Now they never are. That’s a change for sure.
I could go on and on, but I’ll just cut to the conclusion here. There’s definitely a pattern of the wealthy getting away with shit… but that goes back 10 years and all the way back forever basically. However, there’s no indication, to my knowledge, that the very, very basic stuff like “You can’t just arrest someone, dumbass…” has been thrown out. A lot of people that are illegally detained and have some amount of legitimate “This was incredibly fucked up” get settlements. Shit is slowrolled, individual cops never pay of course, but courts do pay out settlements for the most egregious shit. I think being falsely arrested for what cannot in anyway by any sane person he deemed “a threat” (also threats require more than words to be criminal typically. Like specifics that show intent and ability to commit the crime being threatened. A clearly articulated threat is also sort of required… otherwise, what the fuck?) is fairly egregious. It could be worse. It can almost always be worse. But this is a clear cut first amendment violation that even the hogged up judges will go “yeah, that’s kinda fucked…”
There’s also the optics situation. Do some health insurance fuck sticks want their name dragged for months online where literally everyone will side with the lady or just pay her whatever amount to shut up about it? They are very aware that they only get to do this evil when no one pays much attention. Right now everyone is paying attention. If she files suit though, who knows the political landscape at that future moment. People always hate the bloodsucking insurance corps though, so, good bet with the right lawyer she can get big positive PR.
Tl;dr the institutions are rotting but it’s not like laws don’t exist at all or that nobody can get “justice” (not really, but what the shitty system calls justice). Of course that doesn’t mean it’s easy to get payouts. That’s why I say you need a uniquely egregious scenario and a skilled lawyer who knows how to apply pressure.
And before someone suggests it… no, they aren’t gonna “Boeing whistle blower” your ass over a small (in grand scheme) defamation suit (and whatever else). They roll out the Boeing special for when a significant part of the bag is being threatened. (Remember that time Boeing just straight up assassinated whistle blowers btw??? Talk about memory hole)
at least a million dollar auto-win suit
Still won’t cover her medical bills.
it’s a crime to gain an “advantage” over a corporation
don't you threaten me
wtih a good time!
she did things in the wrong order. first you do things and then you do the catchphrase, not the other way around
I would really like to believe that it was her adding, “You people are next,” that got her in to trouble. Otherwise, I find it troubling to get in to trouble by telling someone their own slogan.
It would be like going to jail for sitting through a Mets game, watching them lose, and then saying, “Lets go Mets,” only to then be arrested.
Let’s be real, she got in trouble because there were orders from above that they need to find a case like this to prosecute. There’s no way that the frontline support staff of health insurance companies don’t hear dozens of death threats a day.
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