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    If my 3D printer has a problem, it’s not working properly.

    When my 2D printer throws a fit, it’s because it’s doing its job of being a vicious piece of shit perfectly.

    Important difference.

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      3D printer: failed the print because you tried to print a whole ass gun in 30 minutes. 2D printer: failed the print because you tried to print a picture of a duck and the DRM detected it as a copyrighted image.

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    The thing is, we definitely could have 100% reliable printers with good reparabilty, but capitalism gotta capitalism

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      Just get a color laser printer, learn how to refill toner carts and buy or flash the chips. Even a monkey can do that! /s

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        Scraping those fucking chips off the cartridges like a crackhead scraping resin is a nightmare.

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          My last flash was a random ass script I found on github and 3 alligator clips one the chip pads to reset it, jabky af but felt soooo nice being able to reset it on my own.

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    we have nailed 2D printers. enshittification in the name of profits ruined them. i recommed epson eco-tank printers by the way. no subscription and one 10€ bottle lasts for hundreds of pages.

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      Well, lets not forget hidden codes on printed paper so rhey could be traced back to a specific device. Thats not really nailing it since that was before enshittification.

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        You’re acting like that wasn’t a feature specifically added… That’s textbook enshit

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      Some 3D printer companies tried enshittifying, like DaVinci. Fortunately, they got out maneuvered by companies making printers that were almost cheap garbage, but just good enough, like Creality.

      A lot of that has to do with open sourcing the designs, and that it doesn’t take a major research arm to design a 3d printer. Getting a 2d printer to align ink to 300dpi is pretty difficult, and even more so with color. 300dpi isn’t even that impressive. That industry is tied up in patents and trade secrets, and it’s difficult for a new competitor to emerge. Conversely, I know people who designed top notch 3d printers out of their personal workshop.

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        hey, leave my ender 3s alone. they’re trying their best. honestly, these machines are unstoppable if you’re willing to spend money on spare parts every once in a while. my 3 pro can print TPU with the stock bowden setup and an upgraded extruder.

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          People often shit on the cheap Creality printers, and sure, the quality control is not great (and don’t expect any customer support), but I’m having significantly fewer problems with my Ender 3 V2 at home than we are at work with our Snapmaker 2.0 A350 (costs about 5-10 times at much).

          I’ve had my V2 for a few years, and after getting a textured PEI spring steel build plate and changing the bed springs, it’s been super reliable and consistent. No other upgrades needed so far.

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        Totally doable, use a multicolor printer and print it like 3 layers thick - you’ll get thin flexible plastic sheets.

        Not actually practical, but totally doable lol

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          Just do a midprint filament swap… Looking at getting into TPU at the moment, it might actually be a fun way to have my kid hand something short in. 3 layers of white, 0.12mm per layer, swap to black and print 3 layers more. I’d be concerned about stringing and delamination. But it’s pretty close to the heated bed, so mostly stringing. Fuckit we’re going to try!

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        3d print it onto a plastic tablet like you’re sending it to Ea-nāṣir

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    And I’m over here, with a laser printer, laughing at everyone’s “printer not working” issues. Hasn’t let me down ever and is a speed demon.

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    Actually, the problem isn’t that we haven’t nailed 2D printers. The problem is we have. Which is why they have to do artificial bullshit like the LOW CYAN thing to make money selling you ink that you do not actually need.

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    No, 2d printer tech is fine. It’s the ink scam cycle for them that are the problem. There’s literally no functional reason they couldn’t all use the exact same few cartridges. Capitalism ruins everything.

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    The irony is that making an Open Source 3D Printer is far more accessible and affordable than making an Open Source 2D printer.

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    we should have stopped making new printers after the HP LaserJet 4, it’s all been downhill since then

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        Haha. It sounds like it’d work for low volume prints. Imagine waiting hours for a stack of paper to print.

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    Resin printers are the laser printers (in a few cases, literally) of the 3D world.

    Filament are the inkjets, super likely for something to go horribly wrong because of a tiny miscalculation.

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      Yeah except the ink is super toxic and will make your room smell awful and give you cancer for touching the final product for resin printers which generally isn’t true of your book report

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      Theres nothing inherently wrong with traditional 3D printers though? You can get high reliability from multiple printers on the market.

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    Colour laser printers have been around for long enough that they’re a decent value. If you buy cheap HP inkjet slop, don’t blame capitalism when they try to wring you for more money

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      I have one of these at work. It throws a fit roughly 5 times a day.

      One occasional issue is that it claims it has a blockage, it doesn’t, it wants you to open and close one of the doors.