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      myriads of pontificating psychological pieces instead of: got the bag->this is the best we’ve got evolution, same as it ever was.

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        The cycle of pontificating for ad revenue. First you pontificate about awful people who got money, then you get the money, then you get other people (who hope to also get the money) pontificating about how you turned into an awful person.

        Neither the subject or the analyst are interested in examining the influence of getting the money. It’s not necessarily actively dishonest, but we’re all very good at deceiving ourselves when it’s to our benefit.

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      I don’t think I can agree with you. It’s more like she was always correct about fascists and how they operate, their rhetoric and stuff. That gave her some veneer of being a leftist, along with the company she kept, but I don’t think that was ever the case. She’s always been terrible regarding leftist theory, or how to talk to liberals, things like that. Her attitude has always been that leftists should attempt to appeal to centrists.

      She’s always been a comfortable navel gazing liberal, she just got more petty and miserable, or she figured she could get more attention by being aggressive.

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        I said whiff of success. I started watching her before her incels video and she started getting noticed by the algorithm around then. The fact that she became much more popular with liberals after disappearing up her own ass isn’t a coincidence, because they already believe her braindead takes unironically.

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        Hell there’s actual Hollywood celebrities and pop stars who have had better stances on the genocide in Gaza. If anything her shit take on that issue cost her fans given the space she operates in.

        It’s because her super old content, as in the videos posted under her pre-Contra Youtube channel that has her deadname as part of the channel name, had videos of her shitting on Muslims as some edgy nu atheist with channer characteristics. To me, this goes beyond her being a milquetoast lib. She fucking hated Muslims as an edgy teen then and she probably still fucking hates Muslims after all these years later. Or at least dislikes them enough that she doesn’t care if a predominately Muslim population gets genocided by non-Muslims. Old Contra would probably have cheered on the IOF for providing the final solution to the Islamic question while present Contra has politically developed enough that she is merely apathetic over the ethnic cleansing of a Muslim population.

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      Personally I’m much more likely to engage with and be disappointed with Contra because I was actually a fan of hers, which cannot be said of Vaush. Contrapoints used to hold a special and high place in online left queer spaces that Vaush obviously never held.

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        There have been a number of posts about her in the last couple of weeks, but that is mostly connected to her machine-gunning out dogshit, western chauvinist, anti-“left” takes over the last couple weeks. Also, I think the reaction ContraPoints is largely amplified due to a non-negligible part of the community having been a fan of hers in the past when she still pretended to be on the left and are thus disappointed. Vaush hasn’t really been relevant ever since he showed his porn folder on stream.

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          her machine-gunning out dogshit, western chauvinist, anti-“left” takes over the last couple weeks

          Yeah, if Kurzgesagt were constantly griping on Twitter about people like Hasan then I think we’d see them posted a lot more. BadEmpanada’s takedown of Kurzgesagt’s climate denialism was hugely popular on this site.

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            AI is really good at this.

            Comrades, do not let that Vaushite revisionist vaush the masses again! His Vaushism is the classic right-opportunist line that must be smashed with the iron fist of Mao Zedong Thought! Criticize Vaushism! Repudiate the Vaushite running dogs! Bombard the Vaush headquarters in the Twitch chat!”Down with Vaushism! Long live Marxism-Leninism-Maoism without Vaush deviation! Study Chairman Mao! Smash the Vaush line! The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution in the comments continues!

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        Totally forgot about that guy. Gone away like Jordan Peterson and his ilk. Used to see him trending on Old Twitter and get ready for a solid half hour of belly laughs.

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        Speaking as a newer person. This has been something I’ve side eyed Hexbear a little for this. I’ve seen more stuff calling out Contra then a lot of others in Slop. It really kind of stinks of “marginalized person we are allowed to dunk on”.

        I’m not saying its on purpose. But…any time a leftist space spends more time then others when they are marginalized is always suspicious. It happens a lot to.

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      Yea cis people telling dysphoric trans people they’re self hating and just shitting on them for it disgust me. I’ve been called misogynistic for feeling dysphoric about my voice. FUCK cis people.

    • 'I’m not sure if i am comfortable dissecting this here, in a space where the cissies are listening…

      Fear not, we purge the cis except for real comrades.

      To that end, this all highlights for me the difference between being a fellow queer, and being part of the queer community. These “content creators” visible-disgust all too often aren’t a part of the community. And, their shitty take do better in the algorithm, so we end up having these clowns seen as representatives. Suffice it to say, transitioning in any way doesn’t make someone the expert representative, just as I’m not the queen of Transylvania for Debbie at the supermarket to ask me invasive questions. We need to check these fools.

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        huge pop “science” youtube slop channel, funded or maybe owned (dont remember which) by the bill gates foundation, makes politics videos that are exactly what ud expect from that, and iirc recently had one saying all fat ppl should be made to take ozempic

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        You’ve got me there, that is a good line.

        But personally I think Contra was always a bit of a centrist, she was always very vocal about the opitics of the left and how they should try harder to be ‘normal’. So I disagree with the writers implication that Natalie is like this because of some psychological failing, no I think Natalie is like this because she’s a wealthy woman who passes easily and could afford to belittle the left for not being as appealing to the masses as her. She has always had that liberal streak of “Hey guys let’s be normal adults here so we can get mainstream approval!”. You know, the same thing Dems do when they finger waggle at the left for being to woke and scaring away their precious centre-right base.

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          and I think that this author actually agrees with that, from what is written in the post. A lot of time is spent trying to paint a strawman “leftist anime pfp” caricature. Of course people are annoying, but it reminds me of basically of how contra felt about non binary people (silly, not to be taken seriously, and screeching on the internet)

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    But you used Buck Angel’s voice. A 10 second clip that overshadowed the entirety of your film. And its bullshit. Because directors cast people who have done far worse constantly in far greater roles, and no one says shit. And I’ll grant that it was bullshit. It was an opportunity for the dumbest, screechiest segments of our community to have a shit fit over a simple mistake. Months of hard work on what was essentially your magnum opus, destroyed by 10 seconds of footage from an old porn star with some bad takes.

    From what I recall the response didn’t get harsh until people pointed out Buck sucks and asked her to clarify her position and she doubled down and said she agreed with him. It wasn’t Buck’s shitty opinion that derailed the response to the video, it was her shitty opinion, that she aggressively defended.

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    Wow, this person sucks lmao. Nevermind the fact that it took this person SIX MONTHS to recognise what’s happening in Gaza as “wrong” because the “online left” was “screaming” at them.

    But you used Buck Angel’s voice. A 10 second clip that overshadowed the entirety of your film. And its bullshit. Because directors cast people who have done far worse constantly in far greater roles, and no one says shit. And I’ll grant that it was bullshit. It was an opportunity for the dumbest, screechiest segments of our community to have a shit fit over a simple mistake. Months of hard work on what was essentially your magnum opus, destroyed by 10 seconds of footage from an old porn star with some bad takes.

    Some bad takes? That’s an interesting way of saying transmedicalist scum and someone who advocates against children getting HRT. It’s not a simple mistake, she’s just as online as everyone criticising her. I refuse to believe she had no awareness of his controversy.

    So cool for this to be the reason we’re considered the “dumbest section of our community.” I guess it’s pretty stupid to stand up against intolerance. So true, Oliver.

    Christian Lifestyle Content Creator

    Lmao yeah that checks out catgirl-smug

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      mfw Contra’s pre-Contra Youtube channel where she shat all over Muslims as an Islamophobic channer has something to do with present Contra not caring about Palestinians being genocided by the Zionist entity

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    The only thing I definitely completely agree with here is that she gets way more hate than cis people who are worse and haven even larger audiences. But this seems really revisionist about the extent of her problematic behavior and takes, and the harm that they cause.

    Edit: actually, everything that needs to be said on this has been said perfectly imo in this comment by /u/SerialExperimentsGay.