Also Peter Thiel.

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    It would be the only concrete proof for them that their religion isn’t a lie. If I was Israeli I don’t think I’d be comfortable with the “support” I get from Evangelical Christians.

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    because they think they’ll be the last ones standing, and all the gays, trans, brown people, and other undesirables will be the ones dying.

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    It was about Rome in power and stuff back then, not a future prediction, but they ignore the truth, as usual. They keep people in basic thinking right/wrong rather than grow and learn the truth about the universe. This is the one time to be the cosmos looking back at itself. There is no supernatural coming to save us on this one habitable planet, and no reward later for suffering now.

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    Chosen people empires, while based on Moses (Jesus contradictions ignored), were integral to Rome and US (manifest destiny) empires. Chosen people are immune from anti-civilization/human atrocities, but there are 2 approaches. The 1000 years of peace model made famous by Hitler, but the basis of Crusasdes, and neo-liberal naziism of cold war is about converting and administering enemies to chosen people rules based order.

    Zionazi capture of US rulership/politics post JFK, started with taking the chosen people Christian/neo-liberal supremacism, and equivocating Zionism into the neo-liberal equivalence.

    The 2nd approach to Chosen people anti-human permission, is end times prophecy. Instead of conquest/conversion, pure extermination of every heretic who would not approve of end times mission is “necessary”. Zionaziism is integral in right wing Christofacism, pastor influence, and even has demons like Ted Cruz expressing Israel first chosen people status over American Christians.

    End times supremacism is far more dangerous than neo-liberal naziism, because the former justifies perseverence in the face of defeat, which is specifically why JD Vance is expressing the psychosis.

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    how can you be evangelical and not think that Trump is the antichrist in that story

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    If you say the things these people say, but in Arabic, they are indistinguishable from bin laden, Khomeini, KSM, and all the other religious extremists that the US fears.

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      You know… this might be in bad taste perhaps. But maybe… taking what these dipshits say, translating it to Arabic and overlaying it on a photo of the aforementioned, then putting it on Facebook, but be like “Can you believe what they’re saying…” or “Not in my country!” or something. Once it’s big enough, it’ll come out naturally that Bin Laden didn’t say it, the quote is some MAGA member saying it… idk, I think it might at least reach a few people once the messages are reframed/re-contextualized.

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    The actual answer is that they believe that The Dome of The Rock must be in the control of Israel in order to bring about the prophecies from Revelations.

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    Went looking for context, and he just made that connection without prompting. They asked if we were in the end times and he rambled a bit using many words to say “don’t know, but maybe” and basically took credit for hypothetical end times being because of him as if it were a cool outcome…

    It’s bad enough when these folks assert their work is “god’s” work, but the “it’d be cool if my work causes the end time” angle is just…

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      It’s because the context is 2 layers down. FactPostNews is anti-Trump and covering batshit crazy stuff like this. But the interview itself was with an Evangelical podcaster named Bryce Crawford. He directly and specifically asked Vance about the End Times. From an article on the interview and that specific quote:

      “What do you think about the end times?” Bryce Crawford asked, referring to the Christian belief that the world as we currently know it will someday end, and that Jesus will return. “Do you think it’s here? Do you think it’s coming?”

      Vance replied that he has “always been fascinated” by eschatology and stated that the Antichrist, a figure in Christian lore who will allegedly pose as a Jesus-like figure, may be “walking among us.” The vice president also added that he is “ok” with his actions leading to the end times if that is what happens:

      “Do I think that we’re in the end times? I don’t know. And I think that it’s probably bad for me spiritually to focus too much on it because there are like, things that you gotta do. I gotta be good to my wife. I gotta be good to my kids. I have to be as good of a leader as I can for the United States of America. And so, I think that focusing on – while I’m fascinated by it – focusing on it is, too much of it can be very bad. I think that there are like, things about the world that make me feel like not shocked if the Antichrist was walking among us. But again, I try not to focus too much on it…So, I tend to think like, while I wouldn’t be shocked if we are living in the end times, what I’m trying to focus on is doing as much of God’s work as possible right now. And if that leads to the end times, ok. And if that leads to you know, us building a better world that thrives and survives for a very long time after I’m gone, that’s great too.”

      Edit: article: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jd-vance-says-doing-god-223836378.html

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        Even with context that is pretty alarming for a world leader to be saying.

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        As I said, Vance was asked if we were in the end times, not saying that Vance or anything Vance did. Vance’s rambling answer came up with the little part about his actions specifically being responsible without that being suggested.

        Like even if he were directly asked if he was causing the end times, that answer would have been batshit crazy, but even worse a prominent thought on that front is “I might be causing the end times, and that would be a decent outcome”.

        I don’t understand about what any of that is supposed to “correct” for anti-Trump coverage, the coverage was absolutely accurate. That wasn’t some scenario where the reporting manipulated the context to make him look worse, it was a very accurate reflection of his sentiment. If his answer didn’t have “if that leads to the end times, ok”, then fine ,the answer is just a generic “I don’t know, but I’m doing my best”, but the “leads to the end times” in the context is hard to take any other way than the unstated rest of what he perceives as “God’s work” leading to the end times being prominently in his thoughts.