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    I usually feel so immersed when playing white haired super-ripped giants with magic powers. It’s as if they were a second me, except for the hair, size, muscles, facial traits, strength and magic powers.

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    I think it was Jack on Roster Teeth that said it best…

    Everyone made their online character for GTAOnline as basically themselves, except Jack, he made a female character. They all start ripping on him and he hits them with “if I’m gonna be staring at an ass for the next 500 hours, i want it to be a girl’s ass.” I think Gavin even asked if it was too late to switch.

    ETA: girls run faster in GTA, so it’s the better choice by any metric.

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      Idk, my friend also said he played Cassandra in AC Odyssey because he’d rather stare at a girl’s ass than a guy’s ass for 50+ hours, but now she flies the ol’ blue-pink-white-pink-blue in her living room so idk what to think.

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          I don’t really need to think harder, she actually said that always choosing female characters in games is just yet another thing that started making sense when she realized she’s trans.

          I just wanted to make a clever comment smoothly transitioning from calling my friend a “he” to calling her a “she”

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      I choose female characters in games all the time, and this is one of the reasons for sure.

      Not online games where you create your avatar though…

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        I’ve seen it said that people create three types of characters in online character creation: first is just themselves. We’ve all done it. Second is a celebrity or character from an IP. Think of all the Shreks, Peter Griffins and Samuel Jackson’s that were being shared when baldurs gate 3 came out. Third is an unholy monstrosity that’s just every slider at the extremes.

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          While I’ve definitely done #3, my go-to is usually creating a character for a sort of half-hearted roleplay of an OC. They usually don’t look like me, but they’re always a beautiful woman.

          I really enjoy doing it as a creative outlet. I’ve made quite a few “characters” that I don’t even have save files for yet. When I start a game that has a complex character creator, I usually spend like 30 minutes in it.

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          Yes, I’ve been the third for many years. I’ll be damned if I don’t take off my helmet in any soulsborne-ring game and my nose doesn’t like like a fucking battleaxe.

          Speaking of which, Capcoms new character creator is pretty good.

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          Third is an unholy monstrosity that’s just every slider at the extremes

          This is what I generally do these days. I mentioned it in another comment, but I love hitting random over and over in a From Software game character creator to get the most hideous creations imaginable.

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            As a nearly decades long veteran of Ark, I’m beyond familiar with characters that look like an amalgamation of Jabba the Hutt and a russet potato.

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              Ahhh, Ark. I didn’t really enjoy the grind, but good god - every dev should take notes from that fucking character creator.

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      I play whichever gender has the best looking armour when it comes to custom characters.

      I’m not sure people’s arguments about story characters. I don’t put down a book because a chapter is about a female character

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    The fact that Geralt has a penis is not enough to make me forget that he is not me. Throughout the series, you’re constantly learning stuff about a character that isn’t you, that you aren’t writing. I doubt they have examined their feelings.

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      The thing that always got rid of immersion for me as I ride my noble steed across the countryside to defeat mythical monsters from a mythology not my own was (1) geralt sounds too much like Gerald (2) his magic is trash/boring and (3) his crossbow is weak af. Never had a lot of difficulties with whether he had a dick or not.

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      They probably project themselves over the character and feel like they’re really the one getting the rewards.

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        I knew someone who was utterly baffled that when I watched batman zip around in his batmobile, I never once thought “what if I was batman, tho…? 😲” as if I had some kind of film-watching disability.

        So yeah, I believe it.

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      Imagine trying to claim that you should be able to freely self-insert onto a character that had an entire game about losing their memory and rediscovering who they are lmao.

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    I’m not interested in playing as a vampire. I am a human. Breaks my immersion. I think there should be two options. One for vampyr and one for human.

    Seriously though, this pathetic misogynist is a joyless snowflake.

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    What do you people expect from Twitter?

    I know, the post with whopping 11 likes is extremely important and this whole thread is absolutely not just a rage bait.

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    TURNABOUT IS FAIR PLAY MOTHERFUCKER!

    As a cis-femme gamer I am SO SICK of playing as grizzled, middle-aged cis-men in every goddamn game with a set story.

    Games where you can pick the gender of the protagonist don’t count. Whether you play as Man-Shep or Fem-Shep, Mass Effect is exactly the same and the gender choice is exclusively cosmetic. There are very few games with female protagonists that actually commit to the protagonist being a woman and delving into what that entails.

    Just in this first trailer, Ciri is trying to save a young woman from being used as a maiden sacrifice and that is a much more emotionally complex situation for her as a young woman herself. I will be pre-ordering Witcher 4 the second it is available because I want more studios to make games with women as the main playable characters so that I can have immersion in my games too.

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      Not to mention that in Witcher 3 there were already plenty of Ciri “flashback” missions.

      I kinda wonder if they’ll be doing the same in reverse and she’ll be saving Geralt’s ass this time around as the main plot

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      While I agree with the rest. I think we have learned enough about the current state of game release and if we should preorder.

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        I haven’t pre-ordered a game since Halo: ODST when I was getting a physical copy from GameStop. I am very aware of the problems with pre-ordering, and I still want to pre-order Witcher 4 because I want to send the message that they did not make a mistake by making Ciri the main/playable character.

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      Mmm but any game that provides a different storyline based on gender is opening themselves up to no end of criticism. There’s just no way they’ll ever win that one.

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          I saw a news update for that game on Steam called “sekrit dokuments)))”. Apparently there’s some unlockable item with a code “NOSEKRITPLS”. Like the first couple of times they were like “pls no 😱” but now they’re just embracing it. It’s wonderful.

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    I really wish the people who say shit like this would realize how pathetic it makes them sound. I have never once felt my masculinity was being threatened because the player character in video game was female.

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        When given the option, I pick female/woman presenting. When given the option, I pick black or poc. When given the option, I give them a killer outfit so they can slay all day.

        As a straight white Jewish man, I like to imagine that I’m the quintessential oppressed citizen ready to take everything down with all I have. Anytime I kill a bad guy, a good guy, some random bystander, whatever, I tell them to shut the fuck up cuz I’m taking this all down.

        At least, that’s how I justify it to myself. Maybe I just like strong black women and killing literally everyone.

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          Uhh…

          I think I recognize your username and I think I’ve seen some good takes from you and you’re not just pulling a bit… but that’s kinda weird, lol.

          Is there like a therapist you can go to in order to unpack your privilege/oppression mix and work through stuff like this? Asking for me, actually. (I could probably get it billed under trans stuff in my case though, lol)

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            Oh wow, I see what you’re saying. I’m doing a terrible job communicating tonight and my miscommunication is coming out as incredibly alarming dialogue.

            You know, I’d like to try explaining my comment so that you can understand the missing context, but I don’t know how long of an essay I’d have to write to do that. Rereading that comment outside my own head for a moment, I see something that makes me think “holy shit, this guy is fucked.” So, apologies, I’ll try to do better next time.

            The one clarification I’d like to make: I don’t like killing people. I don’t like gore videos or any of that. Horror movies are cool; real horror, not my jam. I like killing people/things in video games. The way I see it, a group of people went through a lot of trouble making me be able to interact with things in games and death animations, etc. I like to push every video game as far as I can to see how stuff will interact. The first time I booted up Cyberpunk 2077, I spent hours punching every object in the game to find out what breaks how with what audio and if I could get the game to crash by focusing on all the wrong stuff.

            Anyway, game death and destruction=good; real stuff=bad. Sorry for the alarming comment. And to answer your question, yes, I see a therapist and think that everyone should get to talk to a therapist. Mental health is no joke. I appreciate you checking in on me.

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      I’ve never felt my masculinity challenged by anything. Because I am a man and whatever I or anyone else does will not make that different. What a bunch of weak, soft, clowns people complaining that women exist in video games or the “transvestigators” are.

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    I remember when this totally broke my immersion back in the 1990s…

    Didn’t they understand that I wanted to raid tombs as a MALE?!

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    You have to be wildly insecure to even care about such things.

    I’m a guy. I don’t mind playing as a woman at all. I’ve played the Tomb Raider games, I enjoyed Horizon, I played a female V in Cyberpunk, FemShep in Mass Effect etc etc.

    Games are a way to experience something that’s not you or your story. And that’s perfectly fine.

    Heck, if we took that stuff seriously, I shouldn’t play Mario because I’m not an Italian plumber. Or I couldn’t enjoy Euro Truck Simulator since I don’t drive a truck.

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    Ah, yes. If she looks like a sex doll, she’s saving the industry. If she looks like a normal person, the game is unplayable.

    Imagine if women did this. “I’m not a middle aged father, I won’t be playing The Last of Us. It just breaks my immersion, should have made Tess the main character. Also, you can see by the design of his nose bridge that they’re making him less attractive on purpose. How can I play this game if he isn’t a double cheeked up Adonis!?”

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      To be fair, Ciri is hot af, so your first point doesn’t even really fit… The whole thing is just a major self-report.

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        I didn’t say she wasn’t hot, I said she doesn’t look like a sex doll. There are posts around where people are already circling this, that, and the third on her face, like they did with Alloy a d whatever her name is from Star Wars. But people always complain when the woman looks normal, even if they’re still attractive. Acting like that doesn’t happen is being willfully obtuse.

        So… Self report because you assumed normal equals not hot?

        Edit: Misunderstood. Was snapping without realizing he was referring to the OP

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      Let’s be honest, this is most probably a riff on the semi-current push for greater diversity in games. That “could” be boiled down to “I don’t see characters with my exact physical identity and want/need this representation”, even if it’s reducto absurdum.

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        I don’t get why it’s an issue period. I’m a black woman, I almost never see myself in a game unless it has a character maker. I have played game, after game, after game with characters that don’t look like me and survived. It’s very frustrating that just seeing a woman as the main character as immersion breaking when that was never a concern the other way around. I know they may not mean it this way, but it’s almost like they can’t see women as people to empathize. People played as a cat in Stray, a wolf in Okami, but they can’t play as a woman because that’s a step too far?

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          Even as a white man, characters in games do not look like me and never have. I don’t have big muscles and flowing hair and all of that shit. I wouldn’t look like a badass in armor, I’d look like Michael Dukakais..

          And I doubt very many games would be all that fun playing as a doughy, out-of-shape, middle-aged white guy.