There’s thousands of these assholes around us in Canada.
I saw a person here in western europe with a trump flag… A giant fucking trump flag hanging out their apartment window… These people are absolutely fucked in the head.
By chance, is flying the Nazi flag illegal in your country?
My guess is that the Trump flag is the dog whistle
I think the only place where flying the Nazi flag is actually illegal is Germany.
Personally I think it should be perfectly legal to fly the Nazi flag. If only so that the rest of the population knows who you are.
The problem is not flying the flag. The problem is what flying the flag does: spreading the message and emboldening those who would otherwise be harmless. Or worse, recruit impressionable folks.
So you cut that shit right off the bud before it spreads.
It’s like cancer. You don’t reason with cancer. You don’t say “you have the right to do your thing, but get along with the rest of me, yes?” You cut that shit off right away.
otherwise be harmless
Gonna have to disagree with you on that one.
I’m not saying that everyone will psychopathic tendencies would be harmless; but definitely way less.
Let’s put it this way, although I concede that it’s not a perfect analogy: those stats about the risk of death increasing in a household after someone in it purchases a gun? Same deal. The father, the son, the daughter may think “I’m going to kill this mf one day!!” But that day never comes. Oh, but a gun is all of a sudden available? It’s very easy, in those circumstances, for someone with those thoughts to just go get it a brandish it.
How about the reverse, when it actually is something positive? In my hometown in the late 90s, people started complaining that “so many gays invaded our city.” Nope, “them gays” were always in the city, in the closet. Then a new message, spread through the internet, saying that it was okay to be gay. And people realized, “hey there’s actually many more of us in our city. I’m not alone!” and they were emboldened to just come out of the closet. That’s a positive situation, like I said.
But then we didn’t stomp it all out and the cancer becomes trump flags that sprout and grow like weeds.
I find it interesting to see someone ‘admit,’ that humans can’t be trusted to be reasoned with… It’s an interesting perspective, that’s for sure.
America in recent years backs up your point. Have you lived in other developed countries though?
Yes, I’ve lived in Europe. And no, this is not an America problem. It’s a humanity problem.
Christianity, the nazis, Scientology, “the Swifties,” the countless sects, schemes like Herbalife and their “cult of success,” hell, the sports fans willing to beat up others because they use a shirt of a different color!
You use the term “interesting” as if it was a very novel concept. It isn’t. Or am I wrong for having perceived it that way?
For example: sex offenders are a global thing. Go to freaking Stavanger, Norway, and you’ll find people you can’t reason with about “rape bad, m’kay?”
It makes perfect sense when you realize that Trump is a symbol to international fascists. Let’s not forget that after 2016 the world shifted significantly to the right, and had normalized fascist rhetoric to 30% of the population in one of the largest nations in the world
after 2016 the
world shifted significantly to the rightfascists declared themselves openlyFascism is a result of decaying capitalism, people didn’t become fascist because Trump was elected. The conditions for fascism appeared in the US and other countries simultaneously, because the world economy is interconnected.
Yeah and that’s not even really a political statement, that’s a dog whistle flag, that person is an asshole and sees themselves in Trump
In Canada’s defence most of these people are based out of Russia anyway
There are way too many of them locally too. At one point they identified themselves with their combination of FUCK TRUDEAU flags and Trump bumper stickers on their trucks.
There’s some weird obsession with north americans that they seem to think they don’t have substantial amount of problematic people among themselves.
I guess it’s just easier to blame everything, and I mean everything wrong is a Russian/Chinese psyops.
Ignorance is indeed a bliss.
Fun fact, I was driving through a major city in Southern Ontario recently, and on the outskirts there was a guy selling flags, there was a “fuck Trudeau” flag for sale.
Up the road and around the corner, someone felt the need to hang that exact flag at the end of their driveway. It had obviously been there for a while since it was half missing and only read “fu tru” which I think is a more valid message. I had a chuckle.
I’ve seen a lot more, but this was one of the most recent sightings, only a few weeks ago.
And shitbox cars too. Don’t forget those fuckers.
Not sure if Canada will allow the stupidly dangerous cyber truck for sale up there or not, but the only one near me has a Trump sticker on it. Not too far from the Quebec border either.
There’s a guy here who painted his entire house as the trump flag. Flies don’t tread on me flags and shit. I’m speaking of actual people not online presence.
Looks like born, raised, and lives in Malaysia.
From knowyourmeme:
In the latter half of the 2010s, Cheong continued to grow an audience as a conservative Trump supporter on X under the handle @stillgray. Since 2017, he’s worked for the Daily Caller, a website co-founded by broadcast journalist Tucker Carlson. His commentary on U.S. politics is often undercut by people pointing out the fact that Cheong is a Malaysian native and resident.
so, an outsourced conservative comentator, as ironic as the made in china maga flags
Man, times are so tough they’re even outsourcing Fascism.
Would you work for what an American fascist is paying these days?
Right? Like the conservatives just want the labor for free.
You are gonna have to go hunting for some really miserable people or do what the rest of the oligarchs do anyways and get foreigners to do it.
This comment would be funny if it wasn’t true.
Overheard at The Onion office:
Hey Bob, remember how we were going to run your story tomorrow? Well, it happened again.
You have to be a special kind of dip shit to not only support Trump, but to do so when you’re not even American.
Considering those people want to replace American government with a king… it kinda makes sense.
But those people literally prefer trump to America.
broadcast journalist Tucker Carlson
Fuck whoever wrote this. He’s a fuckin propagandist that talks on an opinion show… For him to be considered a journalist is a gigantic insult to journalism for fucks sake… Opinion shows are not journalism.
That’s nothing! Trump was born in SE Asia and was adopted by US citizens, but never took his naturalization test, so he’s not a citizen either. Can you believe that? I mean sure you can, you believed that other thing.
Yes well we can all agree that he looks extremely Asian.
His parents were Argentinian.
By way of Berlin.
Has anyone seen his actual birth certificate?
Yes, his original parents in SE Asia. Possibly his adopted parents who took him on as a charity case, but that is unconfirmed.
Asians are notoriously orange
Many people are saying…!
The best people!
According to the leaked memo an anonymous source told me about referencing the document
People are saying it!
Aka half of hexbear lmfao
Conservative estimate
we follow us politics because they own a bunch of our shit, and have interfered with the third world a few times before to get things their way.
they currently have military presence all over the world. us oligarchs caused the housing crash and it affected most of the planet.
Okay A, why are you screaming at me? B, are all hexbear people just making .ml accounts now because nobody wants to talk to you? C, how does that justify supporting Trump lol?
A - i’m not
B - i didn’t
C - i don’t
you gotta be pretty detached from what me and others are saying to think any of these things
I feel like you people don’t read this post lmfao
i see no support for trump from leftists, quite the opposite.
not here not anywhere i look. i’m stumped, where are you guys even getting this?
When has Hexbear supported Trump?
joke
your head
the supporting Trump part isn’t the focus baby but the amount hexbear users parrot Russian bullshit they may as well have huh?
Let’s think hmm… I guess blaming the Russian invasion on Ukraine is aligning with Trump in my book since ya both tongue punching the same fart box. Seen too many of you dweebs on that shit so how’s that
The joke didn’t fly over my head, it was never funny.
the supporting Trump part isn’t the focus baby but the amount hexbear users parrot Russian bullshit they may as well have huh?
What “Russian bullshit” is parroted?
Let’s think hmm… I guess blaming the Russian invasion on Ukraine is aligning with Trump in my book since ya both tongue punching the same fart box. Seen too many of you dweebs on that shit so how’s that
NATO is the one leftists blame, but either way I don’t see how that translates to voting for Trump.
Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Honesty is not a conservative trait. It never has been.
It’s fear more than anything.
Ignorant fear breaks and shatters a lot of things around itself. Among the first things to go are character and ethics. And with that, any mental gymnastics are allowed so as to NOT go anywhere near Truth.
No, it’s primarily hatred. They great what they hate. The decency in conservatives I’ve known is skin-deep. Spend enough time with them, they’ll show you who they really are…
Not maga anyway
My entire lifetime conservative === Republican. And they’ve been lying, fear mongering and cheating as long as I’ve been alive.
With respect, people who support trump in any way, yes.
People who have different politics to you, no.
It’s not about their different politics though. It’s about them being dishonest liars who’ll say or do whatever they need to in the moment to accomplish end they want.
Newt Gingrich was a lying piece of shit before Trump was even a blip on the radar.
I don’t disagree with that either … but maga people were newt people.
But it’s important to not make categorical errors… Many conservative Americans aren’t like that. (Maybe a small many, but still)
If you actually want the Dems to win the election, then you should be correct in your language. Otherwise you hand the other side votes.
maga people were newt people
Disagree, they may have been predecessors but as I said Trump wasn’t even a blip on the radar yet. You might as well say Grover Norquist was a MAGAt. If we’re tracing the toxicity back we can go all the way back to FDR. The right is a party of failed policies and incorrect theories, full stop.
You are not understanding me.
I’m saying the people who are dumb enough to fall for populist bullshit and lies… and never check the evidence themselves… fall for both of these conmen.
But there are conservative Americans that don’t also. It’s not hard to understand. Accurate language is important.
All ******* are liars.
^^^^^^^ insert group you wish to depersonalize here.Fun experiment! I tried it with “progressives”, “undecided” and even “socialists”, but none of them worked.
In fact, so far, only “conservatives” and “Republicans” seem to fit properly in that phrase. Neat!
I’ll bet you there’s a lot of people who would disagree with you. Just because you’re only saying it about YOUR most hated group doesn’t mean they’re not saying it about you
And you’re both wrong. I wish we would stop being so immature.
Tit for Tat. You hate them=they hate you. They kill you=you kill them. Hate and kill. Fight for everything, it’s like a schoolyard. Someone almost assassinated one of theirs? GREAT!
Who’s going to be the grown-ups here?
Let me guess. THEY HAVE TO START FIRST!
I’ll bet you there’s a lot of people who would disagree with you.
Nah. Even conservatives are aware they are famous for deception and manipulation. Their statements regarding the honesty of others are not to be trusted, as every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation.
Just because you’re only saying it about YOUR most hated group…
I never claimed to hate anyone.
doesn’t mean they’re not saying it about you.
The words of a conservative can be disregarded out of hand, as they are always deception or manipulation.
Your comment then goes on about killing, an assasination and grown-ups, which is all irrelevant to my observation about the dishonesty of conservatives.
There are so many comments on the US election from people who have zero participation in it.
By itself that’s fine, but point it out please. “I’m not a US voter, but” or something. I get these bizarre takes that make sense only after realizing the commenter isn’t familiar with US elections - which is good news. Because what I’m used to are bizarre takes from people who are (or should be) familiar with them.
I’m not from the USA but will be the first to call out idiots trying to convince people not to vote in the US election!
Thank you for your service 🫡
It might be due to the fact that I mostly consume media in English, but I hear more about US elections than I heard about the EU parliament elections which were last month. A lot of people are interested, and for good reasons - it’s going to influence much more than US itself. I don’t think you can go back to keeping your elections to yourself without keeping your military, pop cultural and corporate influence to yourself aswell.
No and that’s totally valid, but when I see something like “Joe Biden should do X or he’s going to lose the vote!” My immediate context fir that is that it’s a US voter saying that. So my response might be something like, “you moron, he obviously can’t do that because of the Bollocks vs. Chowderhead decision of 1972.”
BUT - If I were aware that they were saying that as an interested observer from another country, I could say”oh, well here it’s different because of Bollocks. See what had happened was . . .”
It’s just a fundamentally different conversation.
As a non-american, I’d tune out a lot more of us politics if the US wasn’t the world’s largest military, and a major nuclear power.
also, US conservatives control, instruct, guide and finantially support conservatives in europe, provide them knowhow and practices to manipulate their societies, move closer to power and manipulate laws permanently. it’s going on for years. having conservative administration in power in the US, just spreads their wings towards societies and countries around the world - rise of conservativism in EU since trump’s coming to power is significant, and those groups all use the same methods, same words and practices, spread the same fears (conservative groups of Poland, Croatia, Hungary etc, are led, instructed and finantially supported by US conservative groups). so US elections surely aren’t just a local thing. it’s very global.
Well said…
If people post on international forums, internationals will respond.
And I’m all for it. But this tweet is illustrative of the issues in not knowing that. Put it up front, is all I’m saying.
Otherwise, it’s just confusing and sometimes that’s a very bad thing.
This dude (Ian Miles Cheong) is not acting in good faith, has no incentive to tell you anything he doesn’t want you to hear, and in fact has an incentive to lie and cover up the truth. This is his job. He’s not going to play nice.
Right, another reason it’s problematic
My only complaint is when they’re commenting as if they were citizens. I doubt it’s intentional but I’ve noticed it a few times now.
It’s very intentional
I wish the rest of the world could just ignore your spectacular brand of stupidity but unfortunately things that happen in the US affect the rest of the world. Would be quite happy if that were not the case, but you lot tend to get the rest of the West embroiled in stupid wars.
When candidates start attempting to changed the governmental system by force, with violence… A death… And still have the idiotic in the country support him… it forces us to take note.
I would argue the same would be true if someone like this existed in British politics.
People like that do exist in British politics and some morons even vote for them. Not in the numbers that Trump gets.
I can’t vote (green card) but it does affect me (permenant resident) I shouldn’t have to declare that in every conversation. It’s a bit “papers, bitte”
Yeah I get it, as someone living in America, fair enough, you shouldn’t have to qualify it.
It’s not a great solution. There’s just no way to tell and after getting into minutiae with people, who don’t live here and can’t vote, enough times, it seems like we could avoid some miscommunication that way.
I’m not from the US, nor can I vote there. Unfortunately, since I’m in Canada, I’m very very familiar with your voting system. My knowledge of it is basically on par with my own.
I have lots of opinions on what you guys are doing and I’m desperately hoping that the majority of voters are voting the less crazy person into office.
As it stands, I don’t even want to visit the USA because there’s so much going on.
Canadian here seconding this opinion.
I don’t make a point of pointing out I’m not American, but I figure my instance gets it across
I know California gets a lot of shit, but it isn’t actually a different country.
/jk
Pssst…not all lemmy clients show your instance by default. For instance Voyager. I had to click through your username to see the .ca.
Yeah it makes complete sense. They aren’t arguing one side over the other…
They are arguing the simple principle of whether Americans should vote for a king who tried to take powers or not.
It’s relevant to the lives of the world sine the moment so much evidence has been proved against trump.
A war with who, Ian? Did DEI shoot at your boy?
Does anybody know how the ‘Readers added context’ feature works? It seems to be really effective and I’m surprised it was invented by X of all places.
It was added by Twitter before Elon broke it.
“Trusted individuals” get to propose context, and it’s vetted by a bunch of other trusted individuals. Everyone then votes if it’s good or not. Context that is too contentious will probably get removed. If you keep proposing notes everyone hates then you lose the status.
That sounds quite neat
Just watch, somebody will use it on one of Elon’s tweets and he will take offense to that and the feature will be obliterated.
People have called him out by using it multiple times. I seriously think he has no idea how to get rid of it.
But he’s a super smart and advanced programmer!
Who gets to say who is a trusted individual?
I’ve got to hand it to the folks that are staying on Twitter to dunk on jerks in the Clarification Box.
True heroes with stronger stomachs than I.
I honestly wouldn’t go as far as to call them “heroes” in that a lot of them are just contrarians who want to piss off other people on the internet and likely have very little in the way of political ideology.
It just so happens that most of the loudest voices on twitter are also horrible shitnazis so they are going to get the brunt of the community-note trolling.
If this is a real person, then he’s paid to do this
Ian Miles Cheong’s Twitter-fame is baffling to me. I often follow conservative people on there if they’re in an important position of some sort, but this guy has accomplished nothing that makes his perspective more relevant than the average schmuck.
Engagement is engagement. It’s not a relevance contest, the algorithm picks what makes it money.
I wonder who is “we” in this case and if they had reservations about Trump before
I remember this nazi turned turbofeminist…turned nazi again I guess. This guy pops up every once in a while. No principles, all attention whoring.
This guy is so goddamn weird. I would love to find out what the rusty gears in his brain are doing to make him like this. Dude. Mind your own country’s shit.
I’m a little surprised nobody has tried to blame Hamilton’s “My Shot” for the attempt on Ole Donny Littlefinger’s life.
It would be extremely funny to see Lin Manuel Miranda having to apologize for advocating political violence, while a bunch of Groypers scream about doing a second American Civil War over their friendly fire incident.
